1Y engine conversion

[blue67]

I have had another play and got the timing sorted (i think) it still doesnt want to fire, it has had a couple of coughs and spewed smoke out but will not start and run. I think it must be summat to do with the fuel? i have sucked fuel thru the return pipe. but i might need to bleed the injectors and pump? where is the bleed valve on the pump?

starting to loose the will now!!

[peteabbott]

Nooooo ! Dont give up mate you are nearly there. When I did mine I had to take the return banjo off the top of the pump and fill it from there, then crack open the injector unions half a turn and crank her over. Are you sure that the pump solenoid is operating ? One black wire, with your ignition on pull the wire connector off and on and can you hear it clicking ? How frustrating to get this far and really if your timing is ok and the fuel solenoid is opening AND you have fuel at the injectors that should be it. Are the heater plugs working ? Stick with it as the problem is usually staring you in the face.

[Plasticman]

was the timong out?
mike

[blue67]

So now the pump body is full, it still won't get to the high pressure pump cos that's full of air too. There is a bleed screw on the side of the pump. Slacken this and crank over till fuel without bubbles issues forth. Tighten the bleed screw.

I am unsure where this bleed valve is, can anyone help please? Grrrrrrrr

[blue67]

was the timong out?
mike

It was out but it is now 100% spot on, I have checked and double checked it and it is now spot on. I think I have a fuel problem, I think I need to bleed the pump

[ringo]

Charge the battery up, remove the return banjo from the pump and give the starter motor a fair few cranks - when diesel starts flooding out the return banjo its bled!

I wouldnt do this too often, but its the easiest way to bleed the system. BTW, if the engine fires up (which i hope it does) when the return banjo is removed diesel goes everywhere - so be quick to shut the motor off!

Good luck,

Ringo

[blue67]

hi guys and girls i am calling out for some help please.

Let me explain where i have got to, i have checked the timing numerous times and i am sure i have got it 100% spot on, the only thin i cant be sure of is that the fuel pump is not 360 degrees out. i have installed a hand primer in between the filter head and the pump which i have bleed and bled, i have got fuel at the return banjo.

when i try to start the engine it turns over and over and then fires for a few seconds and stalls. while its running the accelerator has no effect on the engine. also while its is running it blows quite a lot of smoke out the exhaust, while it is turning over it puffs smoke thru the exhaust. i have checked the shut off solenpoid is operating but i really am running out of ideas how to get this thing running properly

any one got any suggestions to help me please?????

[ringo]

Are the banjos the right way round? They are different sizes. The inlet is the big one.

A long shot that caught me out once

Are your glow plugs working?

Ringo

[blue67]

Are the banjos the right way round? They are different sizes. The inlet is the big one.

yeah, that i have checked

Are your glow plugs working?

forgot to say i have had the multimeter on them and they look like they work fine

thanx

[ringo]

Not sure how you can tell with a multimeter?

Ringo

[blue67]

Not sure how you can tell with a multimeter?

Ringo

just to tell there is voltage to them. would faulty glow plugs give me the symptoms i have got?

[ringo]

It's a bugger to start when they are all gone that's for sure. Yours does seem to catch so maybe not.

Pm me your number and let's have a chat about it. It will have to be tomorrow evening now mind.

Ringo

[gaz f]

How did you set up the timing? As what your suggesting with the stacks of white smoke when it finally starts sounds like it's way too far advanced.

Are you lucky enough to have the pump body that is adjustable or do you alter the pump timing with the 3 bolts on the pulley like mine (see my thread in this forum with the videos) ? If it's like mine, I suggest borrowing/getting a DTI and setting it properly as it's incredible how small an adjustment needs to be made to the pump to throw the timing way off!

[blue67]

There is six hows in the fuel pump pulley, 4 large, 1 medium and. Small one. When I set the timing I used the small one. Is this correct? Should I have owed the medium hole which is opposite the small hole?

[gaz f]

Sorry mate, not understanding what your discribing. Can you put a picture of it up on here? Does it look like this one, as you can see the pump is adjusted by slackening the vernier pulley and the pump body doesn't move.


Photo0005 by gazfy, on Flickr

Using the locking pin on the pump is only to get the timing in the ballpark, or to hold it in place whilst changing the timing belt. To set it properly you then need a DTI or do it by ear if you have the pump that moves as a few guys on here have done.