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Re: recovery gear

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lloydy wrote:i've just got a retractable fiskars saw and a homebase axe. Just need a folding shovel now, not particularly for digging myself out, more for burying erm, well..... you know
dont get a draper one, they break easily :rofl

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lloydy wrote:i've just got a retractable fiskars saw and a homebase axe. Just need a folding shovel now, not particularly for digging myself out, more for burying erm, well..... you know
I thought that was what empty crisp packets were for. :lol:

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Nah, they're for wiping
lhd wrote: I thought that was what empty crisp packets were for. :lol:
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A folding shovel isn't much good if you want to move earth like many things mini sized tools do mini sized jobs.
My list would be waffle boards, High lift, shovel gloves, tow starps and shackles. Saws and hatches unless you are going through woods are not really worth taking and only realistically are only for splitting firewood, anything bigger and you need a chainsaw or a proper axe and most stumps can be waffleboarded over or avoided. Often been temted by these http://www.hi-lift.com/handle-all/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; group buy anyone ?
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A good pruning saw is well worth carrying, partic if you ahve a high top or camper... much more useful than an axe unless you need to chop logs up.

My list:

Jemmy (for all sorts of things)
Club hammer or small (6lb max.) sledge
Fixed handle trenching shovel (ex War Dept., a lovely tool)
Mattock (decent size proper job) handle & blade stored separately.. Invaluable tool :ok
Pruning saw (not foldable, but who cares either way)
Heavy gloves, light gloves
A mix of Waffle boards, max length 5 ft.

High-lift jack + LanRover adapter bar for jacking points/ thick ply base, minimum 1 foot square x 1" ply
Hank of 6mm or 8mm poly rope
6 metres min. up to 25 mtrs of plasma (Dyneema type) HDPE rope
Assorted tie-downs and web straps with latch hooks (tree strops/bands)
Assorted tow rope, web tow-straps etc.
Hand winch / plenty of shackles (5,500 lb typ)

Pair of wading boots
Assorted timber, chocks, blocks and billets

Plastic beach.sand/gravel wading shoes
12V tyre pump (Michelin or BonAire), plugs into cigar sockets
Good LED torch, windup + chargeable, good plugins

10 or more 5 ft canes (for marking firm ground (route) through a boggy patch)
2 spare wheels & tyres

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A good comprehensive list clive can be shared between vehicles of course at the top of the list should be another vehicle. Maybe wiki it ?
Also worth to bear in mind is that a Hi lift can be used as a hand winch albeit a slow one, but will do the job often one only needs to move a foot or so to get moving again. High lift do some nice accesories for their Jacks such as a wheel lifter, winch set including tree strop, and base plus a nice bag to put them all included are gloves in plus other shackles etc etc.
Another Jack worth loking at is an air jack I have one but have yet to use it but would be very useful in boggy or snowy conditions as it has usch a large footprint and would lift a van very quickly (runs off your exhaust )
Spare wheels and tyres are essential as often rimmed tyres when aired down and even buckled Mefros.
The tow straps we use are lifting straps rated at 5 tonne they are generaly cheaper than the offroad equivalent but have seen some very nice compact recovery straps being sold these days.
Don't rate wind up torches at all generally they are a wind up :lol: Better off investing in a Maglite LED torch and spare set of Batteries they are amazing in terms of their output (were going for 25 euros recently in Lidl or Aldi) and a good inspection torch LED (chargeble).
Another useful thing to have in the tool box is Copydex, I have a kit that was given me which includes a decent air pump and a resealing solution which I have used to rebead tyres in the field with the air pump and from what I can descern the solution is copydex possibly thinned (it has that destintive smell). It works by sealing/filling the void between the bead and the rim enabling the tyre to reseat itself (has to be done off the van ) but a lot easier and safer than faffing around with lighter fluid or dampstart :ok
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Just saw this lot on another forum look to be quite reasonable for tow straps etc http://www.slingsandstraps.co.uk/shop/p ... hop_param=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Adding to Paul's comments above, fit inner tubes to your tyres and then dinged rims are no longer a problem. The weight increase is minimal, if you worry about such things. I always ran the RR with tubes on it's scabby alloys. End of problem.
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Its rare rim damage itself deflates the tyre, which seals much deeper down on the inner bead behind two right angle bends.. if it does deflate chances are the rim is written of anyway, or its beacuse the sidewall itself has been punctured
What does deflate tyres seems to be sand and grit that is ground/forced down into the bead area...
Copydex is PVA, so any PVA source including a drop from the 5 litre containers that builders merchants sell

We should perhaps experiment with some old tractor tyre inner tubes, as self-lifters. Might need a sheet of ply put on it first.

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got a couple of things...
firewood axe, lil saw and sh!t shovel
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and some 50mm waffle boards, now just need to work out where to keep them! If i remove one section they fit in front westy luggage rack, but think i want to keep that for other things. Might just have to bungy to bottom of roof rack
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HarryMann wrote: Copydex is PVA, so any PVA source including a drop from the 5 litre containers that builders merchants sell

We should perhaps experiment with some old tractor tyre inner tubes, as self-lifters. Might need a sheet of ply put on it first.
Copydex is not PVA its a type of liquid latex, PVA won't seal like latex, mmm tractor tyres good idea :idea
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It is...

http://www.officegiant.co.uk/office-sup ... y/pva-glue

Copydex was and always will be, basically a PVA product

The above Office Supplies outfit calls it so if you read the product pre-amble
We have a wide range of adhesives from all your favourite brands including Pritt, Copydex, UHU and Loctite. All these manufacturers provide high quality adhesives for everyday use including Pritt glue dots, UHU glue pens, Loctite super glue and Copydex PVA glue.

Don't mind being proved wrong, just show me your evidence young man...

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may be worth adding a first aid kit too the list as you have bought all these nice and sharp tools?

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Ok Paul, sorry, you're right :oops:

Copydex is liquid latex

Evostick Resin 'W' is a PVA glue, must have got confused :)

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Didn't see kitchen sink mentioned.
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