The previous owner of my T25 1983 Petrol water cooled camper decided to fill the trailing arms with filler! Nice eh!
My garage say they are too far gone to weld and I have had Volksmagic quote £150 each for second hand ones.
Can anyone please give me some advice on the following:
1. Are there just one type of trailing arms.
2. Should I get new bolts/bushes installed on purchase or is it easy to do (does it require a tool).
3. Is there anything else to watch out for when changing them over?
Thanks
Lee and the lemon T25
Trailing arms filled with filler!
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Re: Trailing arms filled with filler!
£150 seems a bit steep.
Try sending Elvis or one of the breakers on here a PM.
I believe there are two types but one type is pretty rare as they are only fitted to a 16" Syncro.
You will need new bushes and bolts as the old ones are normal rusted together.
http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/shop?page=s ... gory_id=86
Try sending Elvis or one of the breakers on here a PM.
I believe there are two types but one type is pretty rare as they are only fitted to a 16" Syncro.
You will need new bushes and bolts as the old ones are normal rusted together.
http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/shop?page=s ... gory_id=86
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Re: Trailing arms filled with filler!
When you fit new trailing arms you will lose the toe and camber settings for the rear wheels, and will have to set them up again. Finding someone to do this can be tricky. The fixing bolts go through slotted holes to allow for adjustment. See Haynes manual for details.
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Re: Trailing arms filled with filler!
Thanks for your help guys. I have messaged Elvis. Anyone know who the other breakers are on here? Sorry I am new to this scene. Lee
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Put an ad in the wanted forum.The breakers on here will see it there.
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Re: Trailing arms filled with filler!
I've just replaced both trailing arms on my 1983 van I recently bought, I got second hand ones to put on in advance of taking mine off. I reckon they might be salvagable, but will probably need a repair section from brickwerks, I'll take some photo's and if you still need them let me know and I'll get the photo's up.
I got the trailing arms from Kombishop (on e-bay and .co.uk) for £80 each, he's not got any listed at the moment, but it might worth ringing them, there number will be on the website. I also had them both sandblasted and powder coated (inside and out) locally for another £70, just make sure they don't coat the inside of the rings for the bushes, every millimeter counts when getting them in.
As you might have gathered from that last comment the bushes are a nightmare to fit without a tool to do it. I have a mechanically minded and retired dad with too much time on his hands who made me a guide tube which worked a treat, if you're near Newcastle upon Tyne I'd be happy to lend it to you or give you the details so you can make one yourself. I found the OEM Lemforder bushes slightly easier to fit than the Meyle replicas, the rubber seemed slightly softer which might also make for a more comfortable ride, Brickwerks currently have them for £13.34 (with the discount you get through club80-90).
Sourcing the arms, getting them cleaned up, bushed and ready to put on was the hard part, getting them onto the van was easy in comparison. As has been mentioned you'll need to get the toe and camber reset, the wiki suggests marking the location of the old ones but I had to cut the bolts and ended up having to clean up, reshape and repaint the mounts so would have lost any markings anyway, and if the second hand arms are in any way slightly differently shaped through slight variations in manufacture then they would be irrelevant anyway.
If you've not taken them off yet don't even bother trying to unbolt the CV joint inside the trailing arm, undo the drive shaft at the gearbox take the 4 bolts off where the wheel bearing assembly attaches to the arm and lift the whole driveshaft through. You'll need to take the brake backing plate off to get to the bolts on the wheel bearings with a socket, there's a good chance the backing plates aren't in great condition and may not make it off in one piece, the offside can be hard to find at a reasonable price.
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I got the trailing arms from Kombishop (on e-bay and .co.uk) for £80 each, he's not got any listed at the moment, but it might worth ringing them, there number will be on the website. I also had them both sandblasted and powder coated (inside and out) locally for another £70, just make sure they don't coat the inside of the rings for the bushes, every millimeter counts when getting them in.
As you might have gathered from that last comment the bushes are a nightmare to fit without a tool to do it. I have a mechanically minded and retired dad with too much time on his hands who made me a guide tube which worked a treat, if you're near Newcastle upon Tyne I'd be happy to lend it to you or give you the details so you can make one yourself. I found the OEM Lemforder bushes slightly easier to fit than the Meyle replicas, the rubber seemed slightly softer which might also make for a more comfortable ride, Brickwerks currently have them for £13.34 (with the discount you get through club80-90).
Sourcing the arms, getting them cleaned up, bushed and ready to put on was the hard part, getting them onto the van was easy in comparison. As has been mentioned you'll need to get the toe and camber reset, the wiki suggests marking the location of the old ones but I had to cut the bolts and ended up having to clean up, reshape and repaint the mounts so would have lost any markings anyway, and if the second hand arms are in any way slightly differently shaped through slight variations in manufacture then they would be irrelevant anyway.
If you've not taken them off yet don't even bother trying to unbolt the CV joint inside the trailing arm, undo the drive shaft at the gearbox take the 4 bolts off where the wheel bearing assembly attaches to the arm and lift the whole driveshaft through. You'll need to take the brake backing plate off to get to the bolts on the wheel bearings with a socket, there's a good chance the backing plates aren't in great condition and may not make it off in one piece, the offside can be hard to find at a reasonable price.
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Re: Trailing arms filled with filler!
Like shez said getting the bushes in and out is rather hard. I'm a scabby git and 4 years ago I sourced a great pair for £50 from ebay (from Tinap2560 near preston) well in advance of me needing to replace them. Luckily for me there is a shot blaster and spray shop at work. Changed one so far (well brickwerks did) the other is still in OK fettle so the spare lives in the loft.
In fact IF you are near Huddersfield I'd get brickwerks to fit them. They did it in 1.5 hours as well as fitting the bushes. That's hours faster than a garage who would be doing them for the first time and about 3 years faster than if I did it.
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In fact IF you are near Huddersfield I'd get brickwerks to fit them. They did it in 1.5 hours as well as fitting the bushes. That's hours faster than a garage who would be doing them for the first time and about 3 years faster than if I did it.
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