jx suddenly wont start

[leroiandjayne]

hi all just decided to check my injectors as recommended in pocket mech when fitting spanner to first injector nut heard strange hissing sort of sound(engine was warm cos just reurned home) found that one of the rubber cotton coated pipes which goes between injectors had fractured so removed it,cleaned it and cut it and refitted it and now no-way will the bugga start!!! put a tenner of fuel in to rule that out,cleaned out fuel filter and IT STILL WONT START!!!! can some-help as iv no idea whats up,probly something simply under my nose but its doin me ead in(sob) ha ha. thanks leroi

[Oldiebut goodie]

Have you knocked the wire off from the stop solenoid?
Pic in post 7 here

[leroiandjayne]

ta for that thought mate iv checked that and its fine,it clicks when i turn the key on,just found another break in the same pipe so i must have been sucking more air into the system and killing the battery at the same time!!,what are those pipes between the injectors for i wonder? im no mechanic i will admit. helppppp!!

[jamesc76]

those rubber pipes are bleed off pipes and make no affect on running, have you bled the injectors since cracking injector one off???

[leroiandjayne]

i have slackend off all four all of them and cranked the engine for a few mins then reconnected them and no luck,what am i doin wrong?

[jamesc76]

exactly that!!!!!! Right get a helper, any age will do al long as they can turn a key on and off, you then stand at engine, slacken all the injector pipes off a couple of turns, helper cranks engine, once you see plenty of fuel coming out the pipe tighten um up once you have three bled and tight it will try and start, once the last one is tight jobs a good un!

[leroiandjayne]

thanks loads for that james i'll give it a go in the morning,had enuf for today and itl give the battry a treat to have an overnite charge after all, i really appreciate the help cos im a bit of a fish out of water but sure am learning fast ha ha cheers. leroi

[jamesc76]

just to note you dont need to take the pipes all the way off two turns is more than enough! you will get ya hands covered in derv!

[leroiandjayne]

nice one,dont tell you any of that in the pocket mechanic eh ha ha!!! thanks mate, confidence is now on high.

[jamesc76]

nice one,dont tell you any of that in the pocket mechanic eh ha ha!!! thanks mate, confidence is now on high.

I've been a mechanic for a fair few years , and even on dervs that are self bleeding get bled!

[leroiandjayne]

well i tried to bleed them injectors and got some fuel at them just as the battery was starting to die,attatched another with jump leads and it still wont start!not even fireing. and there seems to be no fuel in the pipe from filter to pump but i can suck it through then it dissapears back into the filter??????.HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jamesc76]

is there a hand pump on the filter ???? there should be some way of gettin the fuel up to the pump manually ? I havent touched a vw t35 derv set up in ages!

[Oldiebut goodie]

There isn't - worst luck .(I have one on my boat engine and it is a godsend)
Going back to the first post - it seem as though there was a vacuum in the lines (hissing sound). Maybe there is a blockage in the fuel line at/to the tank or filler cap? Maybe it would be worth running it from a line in a can of fuel to see exactly where the problem is.

[leroiandjayne]

no unfortuneately but i know where i can get one.i took the filler cap off and i just poured derv directly into the pump and tried again but still no luck.

[Oldiebut goodie]

How did you manage to pour fuel directly into the pump? That's an impossibility!