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adjusting my choke for summer driving

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Hi all, I hope this is in the right forum!

I've just spent the last 40 mins on here searching for any help in adjusting my choke for the summer :? . There must be an article on here somewhere that explains how to adjust your choke with a step by step guide for the novice - can anyone point me in the right direction please?
I have a 2ltr CU 1981 T25 if that helps. Wouldn't even know what a choke looks like let alone adjusting it, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

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Never heard of a summer setting for an autochoke.

in fact I've never heard of summer settings in any car or van.
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Yeah you have winter setting or more precisely 'adjustment' and a summer setting/adjustment for the choke. The VW specialist that fitted my new engine(s) had set it to winter back in the winter lol. I think it's something to do with 'butterfly' settings or something - not too sure.

Before you say 'go back to the VW specialist, let him do it', it's a 200 mile round trip and so inconvenient when I could in theory do it myself!

So I have learnt from your reply that the choke is not auto choke - thanks for that.

Still can't find any info about setting the choke to summer from winter though.

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not sure about the twin solex on a CU, but normally there is a biometric coil on the side of the carb( looks like a clock spring, which expands and contracts with the changes in temp.) and you can adjust the tension of that to change the amount the flap opens and closes.
Best thing i can suggest is give steve shaw of gasure a ring, because failing anyone else knowing anything about the aircold carbs,popping up steve should be able to help you.

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Thanks for that Mocki, I'll email him later.

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The bi-metalic spring reacts to heat, the warmer the weather the shorter the time the bi-metalic spring takes to pull off the choke flap.
If I had to have a guess as to what your VW mechanic was talking about I would think he is refering to the air intake on some air filter boxes when they often had a summer/winter lever to change the air take off point from the external duct to the exhaust manifold.
Now I don't know if there is anything like this on a 2l Aircooled......stops the carb freezing.

There are marks on the choke housing that indicate a certain amount of ajustment, but once set there shouldn't be any need to adjust for summer/winter (this just releases or tensions the coil of the bi-metalic spring)

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kevtherev wrote:Never heard of a summer setting for an autochoke.

in fact I've never heard of summer settings in any car or van.

Just watched an episode of American Hotrod and they 'set the chokes to Summer' because they were fitting a brand new engine in their warm factory - the car was a '65 Mustang. Just thought I would share that with you.

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Martin is spot on. That was exactly how you adjusted beetle autochokes and you can do the same on T25.

In fact in much warmer weather you can back it right off until it has no effect - saves fuel. Never come across two bi-metalic springs that worked the same anyway and often found an older one worked better than a new one!

Bear in mind that as its a very rough (if not dumb) sensor, it isn't going to be right, all of the time. A summer/winter setting helps match it more closely to ambient and operating temperatures and if its a daily driver you will save considerable fuel doing that. The alternative is a manual one but then people forget to shut them off and theres no gain.

The auto is merely a compromise and one should not assume that it has no scope for adjustment. You don't want to be messing with it all year - just a general summer or winter setting. You slacken the three screws slightly and adjust accordingly. In use they're supposed to come off within a minute or two but you may find the choke isn't on enough or on too much. Find the sweet spot for summer (ie no choke on a day when it shouldn't need it) and mark it. Do the same when outside temperatures are brassic (on enough to just stop vehicle stalling during initial warm up) and you'll have your own summer/winter settings for your OWN vehicle that work much more efficiently. If choke not been moved in a long time, may need persuasion to rotate it once three screws slackened. Turn it and watch choke flap move with air inlet pipes removed from top of carbs. One way will close it (choke on), the other way will back choke off.

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Hope that explains it :D Twin carbs work the same - just adjust as a pair. When engine is warm, choke flaps should be wide open - blip throttle to make sure. If it were me, I'd just find the right setting for all year round (ish) on twin carbs as you may not want to mess with a winter/summer setting. Once you understand what they do, you should have no problem setting them up. You'll see them on each carb (facing you I think on the 2ltr) - round thing with three retaining screws that just stop it being loose.
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