on the subject of waxoiling...

[jamesandtheopenroad]

Just wondered how often it's recommended to be done? Every year, every few years...

Also, I wondered if anyone has ever painted their arches with rubber paint or similar? This is just a guess but I presume it would be a little more durable than a coat of waxoil and if the seams are good then pretty much seals it from that angle from water/dirt/salt and therefore prevent rust.

Anyway, just pondering on rather a dull day...

[chuckle-bus-tom]

The Waxoyle tin recommends a yearly treatment. Although it has 'rust curing' properties I think it best to clean the chassis off first and inspect and treat any rust. Be aware though, it's almost impossible to spray without a compressor in temperatures below about 20celcius.

Underbody sealant is heavier duty stuff for a longer lasting cover, but again, a full rust inspection and treatment on a perfectly dry van is essential.

[Plasticman]

Just dont bother with underseal , it seals the rust and moisture in,allows it to sweat and hence rust even faster, on the otherhand, please use it then I can weld it all up
mike

[jamesandtheopenroad]

Ooh, is underseal just rubber paint? My ignorance shocks even me.

But waxoyl every year? That must cost a fortune. If you get it professionally done as is being currently discussed on the forum, it should last a bit longer, right?

Honestly, the money we spend on these vans, it's a wonder VW didn't include a detachable phallus for the chassis and a barrel for the owner to rest over with each van sold.

Love eh?

[davidharvey]

I like to spray white shutz paint on the underside of my vehicles, or at least in the wheel arches.........................http://www.paints4u.com/ProductDetails. ... ductID=433

[Plasticman]

schutz, yep = underseal, blatant lies, saying it prevents rust
but if covering up with it gives a happy safe feeling then who am I to argue
mike

[CovKid]

Still think old engine oil is a good protection

[Ian Hulley]

Got a slap on the wrist today on the Scirocco mot for waxoyling the steel brake pipes what you supposed to do with them ? Leave them to rot in Winsford's finest rocksalt ? Still passed though

[Plasticman]

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[HarryMann]

Just dont bother with underseal , it seals the rust and moisture in,allows it to sweat and hence rust even faster, on the otherhand, please use it then I can weld it all up

Agree, everywhere you go the worst rust & damp is under the original underseal, as it can't get out..

Tool to peel it off to get some air in there to dry it out...

[matt brighton]

Hi

Just replying o a dull telly night..........

On one of the hottest days of this yr I spent an "enjoyable" afternoon waxoyling my van - having pressure washed and steam cleaned the underside nooks and crannies a week or so before and taken all the interior panel cards and exterior grommets out for access all areas.

I watered the wax down with white spirit and the standard hand pump worked a treat

Being a hot day I waxoyled the doors thoroughly (with the windows in the down position !!!!!!!! ) - they are still a bit smeary despite gallons of sainsburys window cleaner - well....at least the glass wont rust..........

As i now have the pump and pressure can - I think its well worth the annual cost of a large refill (about £20) .... which did the whole van and my other car and motorbike frame innards

Take photos of the job in progress - if you ever need to sell your pride n joy I know it would be a selling point to me as a prospective buyer

Regards

Matt - brighton

[Plasticman]

Good work there fella, we put a small pot of it in a pan of water to thin it and then spoon or whatever it down into odd areas that we want it to run into as the spray doesnt flow that well
mike

[Ian Hulley]

We put the 5 ltr tins through the steamcleaner to warm them up before the compressor gets a chance ... crappy job but hey, you're only an apprentice once

Ian

[boatbuilder]

Under the wheel arches I have been intending to use gravitex stonechip primer followed by a couple of coats of grey agricultural paint (tractol brand). Is there anything wrong with this if its done correctly? On the one wheel arch that I've already done, I sealed the seams with brushable seam sealer, then coated with UPOL acid etch #8 and then a couple of coats of UPOL gravitex, then tractol paint.

I don't mind using wax oil in the sills and hard to get at areas like that, but for exposed areas, why not just paint it well and inspect it regularly and stick another coat of paint on if required?

[Plasticman]

sounds good to me, I would use the self etch first as its meant for metal! then the rest as you suggest would be fine
mike