Propshaft Overhaul

Syncro 4&4 Discussion and Q&A last answered over 2 years ago.
You may also want to visit the Wiki(pedia) for a more structured index of T25 repair, maintenance, technical and ownership topics (browse for Syncro links)

You can find further syncro specific information on the Syncronauts website.

Moderators: User administrators, Moderators

Locked
User avatar
Wolfsburg Willy
Registered user
Posts: 13
Joined: 01 Nov 2008, 19:26
80-90 Mem No: 7287
Location: Cumbria

Propshaft Overhaul

Post by Wolfsburg Willy »

Just starting the 'Big Holiday Service' as hols are now only three weeks away. So having had the propshaft off since the last winter's snows due to a niggling vibration, I decided to carry out a full overhaul before putting it back on. The vibration first raised it's ugly head this time last year on a trip to the West Country for a week. We got as far as Syncrospares before I'd had enough so the prop' was removed with a view to fitting a couple of new UJs and we would collect it on the way back oop North. To cut a long story short, the vibration was still there when the prop' was refitted.
So I took it to bits yesterday. The bolts were bloody tight, as you might expect, so careful cleaning was essential. The doughnut is knackered; I can twist it through ninety degrees with my bare hands, as though I was tearing a real doughnut in half. :shock: It looked fine but on the prop' there is no real way to test it, so it goes to show how knackered these things can get whilst still looking OK. The yoke-shaft (just made that up - I don't know the correct term :D ) slid out nicely, with only the tiniest amount of play detectable, but on examination things were not right. The two bearing surfaces on the shaft which run in phosphor bronze bushes pressed into the propshaft looked nice and shiny but the wear patterns are not identical; the bearing surface on the end of the shaft (furthest from the yoke) shows a clear zig-zag wear pattern caused by the doughnut flexing and shortening as power is fed on and off, the other bearing surface showed no zig-zag pattern and when I examined the PB bush it just pulled straight out of the prop! The inner surface of the bush looks just like big-end/mains shells which have suffered acid corrosion with 'slug creep marks' very visible. Funnily enough the O-ring in the end of the prop' was intact and there was no sign of water ingress. The bush slips onto the shaft surface easily with very little play, so I wonder from the wear pattern if the bush and shaft were rotating.

So it's a new doughnut from Baxter, and the shaft off to a Mate's to tidy up the bearing surfaces on a lathe before fitting two new oversize PB bushes. Re-assemble with two new UJs (yet again!)then a dynamic balance before refitting. If the bloody thing vibrates after that I'm buying a 2WD.

Incidentally, the flange on the end of the prop' that carries the whole doughnut assembly is pretty naff engineering-wise on my prop'. The flange is so off-centre that it's possible to see daylight if you look down one of the tappings that secure the doughnut to the prop'! :shock: This probably explains the massive balancing weight that was welded on at manufacture.



Zig-Zag Wear Pattern.JPG

Non-typical Wear Pattern.JPG

PB Bush.JPG
You're my wife now Dave................

User avatar
Aidan
Trader
Posts: 7074
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 19:21
80-90 Mem No: 742
Location: Llanfyllin, mid Wales : )
Contact:

Re: Propshaft Overhaul

Post by Aidan »

which poly bushes are you using ?

User avatar
Wolfsburg Willy
Registered user
Posts: 13
Joined: 01 Nov 2008, 19:26
80-90 Mem No: 7287
Location: Cumbria

Re: Propshaft Overhaul

Post by Wolfsburg Willy »

Hi Aidan, I'm not going to use polybushes, I'll turn up some in phosphor-bronze slightly oversize to compensate for the machining on the 'yoke-shaft'. I'll have to make a mandrel to press the bushes in.. I hope that they go in straight!
You're my wife now Dave................

User avatar
Aidan
Trader
Posts: 7074
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 19:21
80-90 Mem No: 742
Location: Llanfyllin, mid Wales : )
Contact:

Re: Propshaft Overhaul

Post by Aidan »

ok
I have got a link for poly bushes - John Morril found a source - the postage was more than the bushes, but if we got a batch they'd be cheap, just another thing I haven't got round to sorting a stock of yet

Locked