Electric P.A.S.

[Ian Hulley]

I can't remember who/where/when but there were a couple of folks asking about this ...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-T25-T3-ELECTRO ... 2c51db5a11

Nowt to do wi me, Ian

[ringo]

They look good.

Cant remember if thats the one everyone was talking about - but that had some trickery to get a speed controller - didnt see it mentioned on there website.

I can imagine that will be a £600 well spent if your struggling with steering!

Ringo

[Ian Hulley]

I can imagine that will be a £600 well spent if your struggling with steering!

Ringo

I shall mostly be keeping my front tyres at the correct pressure (45) and the old Bus Caravelle steering wheel

£600 is half a bl%dy good Summer holiday

Ian.

[R0B]

isnt there an issue with this taking the collapsible part of the steering column away.not sure how insurance companys would take to this modification either.best check before parting with your dosh.methinks...

[eatcustard]

isnt there an issue with this taking the collapsible part of the steering column away.not sure how insurance companys would take to this modification either.best check before parting with your dosh.methinks...

I have asked the question

I was told to look at website?

then this

THANK YOU FOR YOUR VALID QUESTION
The steering is more stronger than the
original T25 as with crashing one well i dont no all we can say is that the
steering is built to the highest quality and no expspece spared
Thanks

[ringo]

This is not the guy i was talking to at vanfest.

He was working on a collapsable one - i think i read on Brickyard that he had started to sell it at around the £600 price.

Im not going to get one either Ian (and certainly not the one from above unless he starts knowing what he's on about) but its good to know these are available for the people who would benefit from it.

Ringo

[lloyd]

isnt there an issue with this taking the collapsible part of the steering column away.not sure how insurance companys would take to this modification either.best check before parting with your dosh.methinks...

I have asked the question

I was told to look at website?

then this

THANK YOU FOR YOUR VALID QUESTION
The steering is more stronger than the
original T25 as with crashing one well i dont no all we can say is that the
steering is built to the highest quality and no expspece spared
Thanks

If the engineering and quality is anything like his use of English language, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

[Ian Hulley]

If the engineering and quality is anything like his use of English language, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

Pot and Kettle Lloyd

Ian

[boatdog]

isnt the collapsible part of the steering system there for a reason ? ah yes its so you dont have to use your ribcage to stop the steering wheel

[R0B]

maybe someone should start a business,making and selling ribcage protectors to compliment this product..

[eatcustard]

maybe someone should start a business,making and selling ribcage protectors to compliment this product..

Would a bullet proof vest do the job?



runs off and raids a quartermasters store

[silverbullet]

This is not the guy i was talking to at vanfest.

He was working on a collapsable one - i think i read on Brickyard that he had started to sell it at around the £600 price.

Im not going to get one either Ian (and certainly not the one from above unless he starts knowing what he's on about) but its good to know these are available for the people who would benefit from it.

Ringo

OK It's not Ultimate Engineering's work but he doesn't have a collapsible bit either. His one uses the GM column and ecu, as does rjes version (which does have collapsing rib-saver along with a new column shaft - hence the cost difference)
This set up looks to be using a home-brew ecu for speed sensing...
I bought one of UE's first offerings and plan on getting a sliding coupling (like rjes uses) which is only a standard steering component anyway. Just need to identify the part as rjes is unlikely to sell me the odd bit!

[RJES]

please see my post below:

[RJES]

The Electic Power Steering (EPS) kit which is being developed which is collapsible and was on display at Vanfest and bus Freeze 2009 is my project. I have been working on it for over two years, and various versions have been on test in my daily driver for 23 months now. Multible collapsible or energy absorbing elements are included, and all load carrying components are OEM specification parts.


Anyone considering buying any kind of aftermarket steering column products may be interested to see this video clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwa9vdq8 ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I would also advise that they ask whoever is marketing the system they are considering the following:

1. To explain what steps they have taken to ensure that it is at least as safe as the parts it replaces
2. To explain how the steering column deforms, decouples or otherwide collapses to absorb vehicle body deformation in a front end crash to minimise the chances of the steering wheel being pushed towards the driver
3. What absorbs misalignment between the steering column assembly and the VW bevel box to prevent rolling bend fatigue, excess bearing wear or loosening of parts due to inevitable misalignment caused by tolerance variation or damage?
4. To explain whether all the steering load carrying components are designed and manufactured to OEM specifications
5. To explain whether any OEM steering load carrying components have been modified in any way since they were manufactured.
6. If any load carrying components have been modified from OEM specification, can they provide proof that the modifications will not fail through shear, rolling bend fatigue, weld failure, adhesive bond failure, etc?
7. What relevant qualifications whoever engineered the conversion has to do so?
8. Whether they have product liability insurance which covers products as safety critical as steering columns?


I should explain that I have made a have made a major E D I T to my post which was previously here. This is as a result of spending most of this week deciding my way forward. It has nothing to do with either comments made by any of the other contributors to this thread or any changes of the opinions I previously expressed here.

In the future I will discuss nothing at all about any new products which I may be working on with anybody unless they sign my confidentiality agreement up front. I will display no prototype or ‘work in progress’ projects at exhibitions before I make them public via my web site, press releases, or whatever other form of release I choose. Prototype or ‘work in progress’ projects will not be available for anyone I do business with to see prior to product release unless they both have reason to know and sign my confidentiality agreement up front.


Any previous business relationship between R J Engineered Solutions and the creator of the system which this thread is discussing ended as of 24/11/09 as a result of his breach of my trust and unwillingness to take certain very important things which we have discussed seriously while claiming he is keen to learn.

[mrhutch]

once again Richard you show how engineered solutions that are to be sold to the general public should be done..

nuff respect