I have the hinges, and will buy the wood. I have templates to make the side panels and have sizes for the boarding(supplied with the hinges)to build a full width bed. Does anyone have any details as to the actual fitting of the unit to the van?
Are battons required across the sloping part of the floor?
If so, is the bed framework screwed to the battons or is it bolted through the floor?
If fitting the rear flooring(for storage etc) above the engine bay do I need to raise the flooring under the bed so that all is level?
Any info/diagrams/measurements/ideas would be greatful.
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Fitting an r&r bed to the van technique
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Re: Fitting an r&r bed to the van technique
Hi Mate- are we talking jk rnr hinges?
I did mine with jk,,,and briefly....
the rnr bed is made of 5 bits of wood
1. Seat back
2. seat base
3. Kick plate
and 2x side pieces.
the kick plate and side pieces support the seat base when upright, and the bed on triangular metal brackets when flat (you do have those don't you?)
Each rnr hinge bolts to a side piece and the slopey bit of the engine bulkhead. And yes, we needed to make a platform for above the engine bay to keep it all level.
Hope that helps
Em
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I did mine with jk,,,and briefly....
the rnr bed is made of 5 bits of wood
1. Seat back
2. seat base
3. Kick plate
and 2x side pieces.
the kick plate and side pieces support the seat base when upright, and the bed on triangular metal brackets when flat (you do have those don't you?)
Each rnr hinge bolts to a side piece and the slopey bit of the engine bulkhead. And yes, we needed to make a platform for above the engine bay to keep it all level.
Hope that helps
Em
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Re: Fitting an r&r bed to the van technique
did you have to drill into the van to fix the hinges?
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Re: Fitting an r&r bed to the van technique
Hi Em, thanks for the response. Hinges aren't JK but look identical. Bought them from a firm off ebay. Are the triangular brackets you mention for the bed the R&R hinges or are they a separate item? Also what thicknesess are the batons for the platform?ermie571 wrote:Hi Mate- are we talking jk rnr hinges?
I did mine with jk,,,and briefly....
the rnr bed is made of 5 bits of wood
1. Seat back
2. seat base
3. Kick plate
and 2x side pieces.
the kick plate and side pieces support the seat base when upright, and the bed on triangular metal brackets when flat (you do have those don't you?)
Each rnr hinge bolts to a side piece and the slopey bit of the engine bulkhead. And yes, we needed to make a platform for above the engine bay to keep it all level.
Hope that helps
Em
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Re: Fitting an r&r bed to the van technique
ok now you are asking.
The hinges are seperate from the triangular supports, which attach on the underside of the seat base. When the seat is in bed position, with the hinges we had, the seat base was Higher in bed arrrangement than in seat arrangement I think. So the supports (essentially a V shape with a flat-ish rather than sharp point) rested on the top edge of the kick plate. Our kick plate came out to the edge of the sliding door frame if that is any help.
Yes, we did have to drill through the van - each hinge has a single bolt that goes through the bulkhead. We had a wooden floor 18mm composite board, which we screwed the kick plate end edges to with pretty damn big brackets!
I used 12 or 18mm mdf for everything as could not afford ply at the time - if you can, go for the ply - stronger and better quality and not so heavy.
I used the plans that are in the download section of the club website, but only did the 3/4 bed.
Hope this helps
Em
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The hinges are seperate from the triangular supports, which attach on the underside of the seat base. When the seat is in bed position, with the hinges we had, the seat base was Higher in bed arrrangement than in seat arrangement I think. So the supports (essentially a V shape with a flat-ish rather than sharp point) rested on the top edge of the kick plate. Our kick plate came out to the edge of the sliding door frame if that is any help.
Yes, we did have to drill through the van - each hinge has a single bolt that goes through the bulkhead. We had a wooden floor 18mm composite board, which we screwed the kick plate end edges to with pretty damn big brackets!
I used 12 or 18mm mdf for everything as could not afford ply at the time - if you can, go for the ply - stronger and better quality and not so heavy.
I used the plans that are in the download section of the club website, but only did the 3/4 bed.
Hope this helps
Em
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Re: Fitting an r&r bed to the van technique
This is probably the best bit of advice you'll get on doing this.
I too bought just the hinges. The best way is scale the job down first. Make a small box roughly the same depth and height as you think you'll require for the seat but don't worry too much about width - use this box as a TEST case. All you're doing is figuring out the mechanism, movement, and best place to mount those hinges - nothing more. Once you figure it all out, making a larger box for the final seat is a lot simpler plus you won't have wasted miles of wood trying to get it right.
By the way (depending where the hinges come from), some have a pin that rests in a cutout in the seat sides. The Marklin hinges are like that. No real hassle, you just have to mark the wood and cut a 'V' to allow for the pin. Also, use BIG washers under fixing bolts as this will reduce the chance of them being ripped out.
I too bought just the hinges. The best way is scale the job down first. Make a small box roughly the same depth and height as you think you'll require for the seat but don't worry too much about width - use this box as a TEST case. All you're doing is figuring out the mechanism, movement, and best place to mount those hinges - nothing more. Once you figure it all out, making a larger box for the final seat is a lot simpler plus you won't have wasted miles of wood trying to get it right.
By the way (depending where the hinges come from), some have a pin that rests in a cutout in the seat sides. The Marklin hinges are like that. No real hassle, you just have to mark the wood and cut a 'V' to allow for the pin. Also, use BIG washers under fixing bolts as this will reduce the chance of them being ripped out.
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Re: Fitting an r&r bed to the van technique
good advice there.
thanks very much. btw are the marklin hinges the black ones that have three settings for reclining when the seat is up?
thanks very much. btw are the marklin hinges the black ones that have three settings for reclining when the seat is up?
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