Timing belt tools

Post by **Mog** » 12 Apr 2006, 20:02

Dose anybody know where you can get the camshaft locking tool/plate, injection pump pulley locking pin and dti assembly for pump setting. I have enquired at VW but they have been disscontinued.

Post by **andysimpson** » 12 Apr 2006, 20:12

Mog wrote:Dose anybody know where you can get the camshaft locking tool/plate, injection pump pulley locking pin and dti assembly for pump setting. I have enquired at VW but they have been disscontinued.

They are taking the pi$$, they were used on models upto 2003

Post by **orcecaveman** » 12 Apr 2006, 21:58

Laser tools do a cheap kit.

Post by **Louey** » 12 Apr 2006, 23:06

they do - under a tenner or a big bolt and a flat pice of bar will do the same

Post by **HarryMann** » 13 Apr 2006, 10:02

Be careful....

Read the Wiki!

Post by **Louey** » 13 Apr 2006, 10:38

I've got the correct tool and its not a great fit at all and even if you put shims in to wedge it in I still need to clamp the thing in with a quick clamp too

Post by **HarryMann** » 13 Apr 2006, 10:49

Is that the correct tool to lock the camshaft in position or lock the cam sprocket Louey.. I think JimmyT found the first often serves as the second as well, but is not actually intended for that

Post by **Louey** » 13 Apr 2006, 10:53

perhpas I'm getting confused

My kit has a big bolt type thing for the pump and a shaped plate/bar to lock the camshaft

Post by **Horza** » 13 Apr 2006, 11:09

Looking at the TDi walk through linked from the WIKI page linked above *breath* there is a tool for turning/holding the cam sprocket. Would the use of such a tool not have prevented what happened in said WIKI page?

I need to do this very soon but even the buying of the locking tools is overwelming me. Aaaargh.

Post by **Louey** » 13 Apr 2006, 11:14

what would be good is a tool to stop the crank from turning. Perhaps a locking tool for that or a device that pops into the hole on the gearbox, a bit of gubbins attached to a round cap similar to the inspection one you remove?? Any ideas or have I missed and easy method of stopping the crank from rotating

Post by **HarryMann** » 13 Apr 2006, 12:14

A quick flip through of that TDi article will I think, shed some light on holding the cam sprocket when being tightened, it's a way down from the top... might be long-winded, but what a superb photo-article, doesn't leave much if anything out. He does talk about positioning and locking the crank where necessary.

Post by **Horza** » 13 Apr 2006, 12:30

Louey

Laser Tools Crank Locking thinger

Furryboots can I buy these Laser Tools then?

Post by **jimmyt** » 13 Apr 2006, 14:04

Be very careful when removing camshaft sprocket

I recommend a tool for counter holding the sprocket, something like this:

http://james-thorogood.fotopic.net/p27970517.html

http://james-thorogood.fotopic.net/p27970516.html

Mines obviously home made but you must be able to buy one as there is one pictured in the TDi article. I wouldn't recommend using the locking plate when loosening the sprocket bolt although it seems have worked fine for others. I still had trouble getting the bolt out when the camshaft was out and clamped in a big vice in my workshop.

Have a good read of the tDi article as mentioned before, it covers the whole process except setting pump timing with dti, but thats described in another article I've read somewhere.

Cheers

Jim

Post by **HarryMann** » 13 Apr 2006, 14:22

NIce effort James, will put those pictures in Wiki if OK with you...

Post by **Diamond Hell** » 13 Apr 2006, 15:30

I've done a fair number of these - a well fitting plate, or plates to fit the slot WILL work fine.

I've certainly never had any problems like the one shown above and not everyone can buy the right tool for each job - FFS if that was the case I couldn't have changed the wheel bearings on the rear of my Golf last night, for which I used a 50mm 3/4" drive socket and some M12 thread bar.

I think some of the problems described are caused by people doing things 'out of order'. Before anything gets locked down crack the cam sproket bolt off - it's the first thing you should do after removing the guards.

When you're fitting the new belt (and tensioner, right?) make sure that you've cracked the sprocket off the cam by belting it from behind with a punch, as directed (people miss this bit) - this means it will spin freely on the cam and make tensioning the belt a lot easier (Russel at Syncronutz pointed that bit out to me - what a great tip).

Of course the cheat's way of doing this is to cut the belt in half around it's run and lose the outer half. Once you've done that the new one can be slipped over and re-tensioned. Easy, cheating, but effective.

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