Paint Your Wagon - with a roller!

[syncrosimon]

I think from my pesrspective the reason why you choose rustoleum is one of affordability, I dont think anyone is saying that it is equal to a proper spray job done with 2k in a booth, but these are the advantages as far as I am concerned.

My re-paint has cost me around £100, and took me about 4 days all told.
The finish is adequate, and as my van is not a concours vehicle it is good enough for everyday use
She passes the 5 meter test (from 5 meters she looks immaculate)
I still have enough paint left over to do the whole thing again, at no cost what-so-ever.
I can touch bits up, and repair dents and scratches for free.
I have the satisfaction of another job done by me, and more skills learnt.
The rustoleum is a tough old paint, once dry, and I would say this does take months.
I oven baked 60 degs C or less (rayburn warming oven) all the brackets etc, they were still soft, but again after some months are now totally hard.

Rustoleum is for those people keen to improve the look of a tired vehicle, and have modest ability, and the skill to adapt the technique as you go, for the conditions on the day.

Step away if you are impatient and after a concours finish, although with a large amount of effort this will be achievable, but not over night.

With rustoleum you can sort the areas of rust on your dub, cover it with the paint, wait a few months, see if anything bubbles up, re do it as necessary, and over a period of time paint a vehicle that will not rust again.

I would not paint any other way, unless I was going for a 5 grand bare metal restoration.



Simon.

[CovKid]

Simon is spot on there. That was more or less the thinking behind my original wiki and thread on this subject. Its no good thinking you'll have the best finish, first time, particularly when you're new to using a roller AND getting the mix right. However, its a durable and protective finish and when you have got it right, it can lay down flat like a spray job. Subsequent flatting back can create a mirror finish. You can of course spray rustoleum but thats a messy business and chances are you won't actually improve that much on rollering which after all, you can do as and when you have time without your wagon being off the road for days, weeks etc.

I'm with Simon on this. I wouldn't even consider spraying mine again. If the worst came to the worst and I made a pigs ear of an area, I can just flat back and do it again. There are some suggestions that a 50/50 mix of Rustoleum and thinners works well too. Can't verify that but its worth considering.

Also agree on the bubbling paint issue. It helps highlight areas that may be more of a problem than you originally thought when prepping. I'm finding that around petrol cap and suspect I'll need to cut new metal in there before I paint it again. I'm not overly bothered now if van got 'keyed' as its no big deal repairing that kind of damage when a few goes with the roller obliterates it. I think Simon used a mix of rattle-cans and roller if I remember rightly. I managed fine with roller and foam brushes. Lots of ways to approach it but paint was almost made for these vehicles really. Matt version seems to work really well too and heck if you want to have fun, get a couple of colours, mix them and see what you get. If you don't like it, change it next year. Doing it with a spray gun is a lot more involved to my mind.

[selim]

I've saved up some cash and on holiday from uni so I need something to do and thought I might aswell get on with painting the van.

I'm thinking of an army camo style but was just thinking whether this is actually allowed or is there some law that says only official governement military can use camo. I haven't found anything anywhere so I'm assuming it's ok. But then if I do go ahead with it what do I write down as the colour of the vehicle when on the V5 slip?


And where can I buy the paint from?

[syncrosimon]

You will be fine with the law, you can get the paint from some army surplus outlets good and cheap or get it mixed at your local paint shop. for the V5 you would use Multi/green something like that.

[CovKid]

Selim, go for it!

Been wanting to see someone do this with rustoleum since I did mine.

[Joloke08]

Hiya
havnt been on here for a while,id still love to get a T25 eventually but finances havnt allowed this as yet
I Have however been doing up a Little Mini Sprite and been learning Painting Skills

The Mini Known as Boris is pretty solid but hes had a few bodge jobs over the years,so ive had to Paint the Front Panel,both A Panels and Both Doors

I Managed to get a fairly Good Paint Match but i really just wanted to get him through the winter so next year ill give him a total repaint

Im still not sure what to do though i keep changing my mind

Celulose? 2k if i cant find somewhere to do it?
Or Rustoleum
Or is there another way?

The areas i sprayed a few months ago i used Custom Mixed 1k Synthetic Paint which although very good quality cost a whopping £75 in aerosols just to do the said areas

Its made me realise one thing though id never take my car near a paint shop now,ok it may of cost £75 but it would of cost hundreds im guessing at a paint shop?

Anyhow i was watching "Salvage Squad" Coach Painting a Morgan Three Wheeler and researched the company they got their Enamal Coach Paint from and discovered its cheaper that Rustoleum

Below is the post ive posted on Another Mini Forum i Go to just thought you guys may find this useful too?

Hi
i was watching "Salvage Squad" a couple of weeks ago when they were restoring a Morgan 3 Wheeler and was amazed by the finish they acheived with a Brush

I still hadnt erased the recording from Sky Plus so just looked at it again and managed to get a close up on the paint can
The Company it was mixed by was "Jawel Paints" and it appears to be the Synthetic Enamel they do

I know Rustoleum is cheap when bought in standard colours but get it custom mixed and it starts getting nearer the £100 Mark

I was Amazed When looking at Jawels Website you can get 5 litres of basic standard of the shelf colours for just £28!!
If you want to give them your Paint Code and have it mixed its £42.55 for 5 litres which is around half the price for the same Rustoleum

I dont know all the ins and outs of the paint,you may not be able to roller it but you can certainly brush it on with amazing results as can be seen on Salvage Squad

Just Thought this might be of some use to others?
I May Just Get 5 litres of Flame Red For Boris,i dont know if id paint him completely in it but at that price it would be handy having Brushable Colour Matched Paint for doing his Floorpans,Engine Bay etc

Huggz
Jodie

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To Close this i can link some piccys here from My Photobucket of the results i obtained on Boris my Mini just using Aerosols and a lot of Farelca G3

I just Wanted to check first? i know its not a VW T25 but lets know if you guyz wanna see my Little mini?

Happy Christmas to everybody here

Huggz
Jodie

[cozmik]

In my humble opinion camo paint is a nightmare. It clings to every bit of oil, dirt & grit like velcro and the water stays on it for about three days after the rain's stopped. It does make a nice undercoat for the Rustoleum though. I've still only put one coat on mine (dark blue over the khaki camo) and it still looks a treat and polishes up lovely. Only problem with mine is that I should have flatted it back more as the brush lines from the camo are showing through in a few places. Nice little project for next spring, having done the whole thing in 2 days I am going to do it a panel at a time to get a bit of a better finish. Quite a nice relaxing job I find, once you get the hang of it. Temperature is the main thing, not too hot, not too cold. Oh and read CovKids article a couple of times before you get started. I knew nothing about doing this before I read it and have done a very acceptable job. Thanks again CovKid!

Wonderful stuff Rustoleum..I'm thinking of painting my legs and never wearing trousers again!

[CovKid]

Coach paint isn't rustoleum - thats the first point. Cheaper it might be but its nowhere near as clean/easy as Rustoleum or as protective and with about 25 quids worth you can paint a whole T25. You can roller in almost any paint (including sandtex) but Rustoleum has a nice flow characteristic that suits the method well and offers years of protection.

[steveo3002]

that synthetic coach enamel takes forever to dry and is alkward to recoat /flat polish etc , thats what puts me off it plus the fact you cant use much over it

where as rustoleum flats /recoats easily and can overpainted by most stuff after its dried well

[ding-dang-dhu]

Hey,

Thought I would upload my roller job that I did on my van back in July. Being off work on holiday helps with stuff like this

Some prep pics











That was mainly for the spraying of the white. My roller job on the white over the bluewas poor at best. The rustoleum spray works brilliantly, if as Covkid says a little messy.

Finished van before chrome strips and vinyl graphics.





This was on holiday





Hope you enjoy the pics

Pete

[weerickyni]

great job! well done!!

[andymacdonald30]

I wonder if you could mix in some metal flake into this paint

Now that would be good if you can

Andy

[CovKid]

If you're spraying, use the clear Rustoleum and add flake to it. As mentioned before, you can't use flake on a roller though.

[ding-dang-dhu]

great job! well done!!

Cheers pal.

[HarryMann]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7810296.stm

Now that's a hand-paint job and a half -

Rail enamel