BF Goodrich's have their limits..

Post by **syncroandy** » 22 Oct 2008, 18:15

I had the 215/75R15 BFG AT's on my Kombi swapped from the Mercs steelies onto my new Mefros today.

One could not be balanced as the casing was running too far out, one other was marginal. The chap doing it reckoned there was some internal damage to the tyres. These have been on the Kombi since 2003 and have around 45k on them, and there is still around 10mm of tread left. However they've had quite some punishment on occasions. Some of the rocky Dales lanes spring to mind.

I think I've paid the price for running 3-ply tyres on a two-ton truck when I should have been running 8-ply. Don't get me wrong they are great tyres and I'm happy I've got the MT's on the pickup, but I think I'll be a tad gentler on those from now on.

Post by **Andy syncro-nutz** » 22 Oct 2008, 19:19

One tyre in 5 years and around 45k on it!
Thats bloody brilliant! Wish it a good retierment or a big burnout!

Post by **syncropaddy** » 22 Oct 2008, 21:45

I have 215/75/15 BFG MTs on Mefro rims and one of them has a huge amount of balance added to get it running without vibration and all rims and tyres are brand new.
Are BFG MTs any good in snow?

Post by **HarryMann** » 22 Oct 2008, 22:01

I wonder what BFG who charge up tp £100 each for these have to say about balance (presumably symmetry or thickness issues)...

when my Machos, remoulds, look dreadful but don't have enormous weights on them. No, they don't last as long... by a long shot!

Wonder also what BFG would say if a new one was returned as 'unbalanceable' within reasonable tolerances... via the supply route/agent.

Presuming of course it definitely isn't the wheel, new or not?

Post by **Andy syncro-nutz** » 22 Oct 2008, 22:03

Guess you should swap the tyre with another one of your rims and find out wots wot!

Ive just fitted BFG AT's 225 75 16's and didnt need weights!

MT's on snow are not ideal as the big give away being ther for mud

Snow on mud, great! snow on tarmac, thud!

Post by **HarryMann** » 22 Oct 2008, 22:05

From BFG website - BFG Mud Terrain Tyre

Benefit: Named a 10 Most Influential product by JP Magazine
Feature: The only tire to be recognized in the enthusiast publication's top 10 all-time off-road products

Benefit: Unbelievable traction for deep dirt, mud and rocks.
Feature: DiggerLugz (upper sidewall traction bars and treadclearing shoulder void bars)

Benefit: Incredible rock climbing and slick surface traction
Feature: Improved high-void tread design with larger footprint, interlocking tread elements and advanced compounding

Benefit: Improved wheel and tire protection from off-road hazards, especially during aired down situations
Feature: Rim protector

Benefit: More even wear
Feature: Dual-tread radius

Benefit: Reduced road noise
Feature: Computer-optimized tread design

Benefit: Exceptional bruise resistance under the tread and in the sidewall
Feature: BFGoodrich ® Tires' TriGard ® construction " innovative 3-ply polyester carcass

Benefit: Improved ride smoothness and tire uniformity
Feature: Single strand beads on all dimensions (single wire wrapped continuously)

Benefit: Compared to Radial Mud-Terrain T/A ®

Post by **Syncro G** » 23 Oct 2008, 01:19

My 14" AT's hardly needed balanceing from what the fitters comments were, they didn't seem to think you'd get that from an Insa Turbo (infact they reconed a 16" rim didn't have the space for that much Zinc weights (Yes Zinc, lead isn't green enough anymore aparently, though it was actully good at the job))

Mine have about 13mm tread on which isn't far off new, so if 45k takes off say 4mm they should be around for quite a while! Myabe theres truth in the legend that a LR 110 can do 100k on a set of BFG's. The BFG Track edges on my landy only have 4mm left and I was surprised how well theyn still work in mud, though they slide on the road - kind of the oposite of the 4mm colway MT BFG ripoffs I used to run on it which are starting to show their ware in mud.

As for the Colway MT BFG ripoffs in snow, they wern't bad, though probubly not as good as the Goodyear Wranglers on the other series 1, they aren't as good in mud though.

. You can ice stud Colway MT's though

, not sure about the genuine version.

Post by **Syncral** » 27 Oct 2008, 15:37

syncropaddy wrote:I have 215/75/15 BFG MTs on Mefro rims and one of them has a huge amount of balance added to get it running without vibration and all rims and tyres are brand new.
Are BFG MTs any good in snow?

Never had any BFGs, but ran Colways for a while and now running General Grabber AT2 225/75 R15 S on Mefros. I've driven a fair amount in snow and I can vouch that the Grabbers exhibit fantastic traction in 'slippy' conditions. They never feel sketchy, but like Andy says they are ATs, they're not the best best in mud though and tend to well up quite quickly in particular types of mud. That said if I was going for a snow tyre the GG ATs would be my call.

Post by **syncropaddy** » 29 Oct 2008, 22:14

BFG MT's seem OK in snow. we had 3" of the cold wet sticky stuff today so I went out to play

Post by **Andy syncro-nutz** » 29 Oct 2008, 22:44

syncropaddy wrote:BFG MT's seem OK in snow. we had 3" of the cold wet sticky stuff today so I went out to play

Not so much of a flake here! Cant wait for the snow! Im off to Glencoe camping next weekend!