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Can anyone help we have a t25 engine keeps cutting out on acceleration mainly in higher gear. I have changed plugs also new rotor arm all the carb has been cleaned, new inline filter. I broke down and the AA told me it was the full pump I have replaced the fuel pump no change. Any ideas, please I am about to give up!!
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ermie571
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Freebird,
welcome to the club!! There is tons of help and adove on here. BUT
you need to give more info. Read the sticky about telling engine size and fuel.
Also - when it cuts...is it stalling...do you get the two red lights on dash. Will it immediately restart. Does it hiccup first?
A more detailed description will help loads! Looks like you have started but going any further will need some more clues! Could be coil, sticking float on carb, sommat in the jets, water in the fule, your coil breaking down when warm, your idsle stabilisation unit furbarred...etc etc....
More info,. then those that know will be able to help!
And pop over to general chat to introduce yourself too! Beleive me, ther will be many that understand your frustration!!
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welcome to the club!! There is tons of help and adove on here. BUT
you need to give more info. Read the sticky about telling engine size and fuel.
Also - when it cuts...is it stalling...do you get the two red lights on dash. Will it immediately restart. Does it hiccup first?
A more detailed description will help loads! Looks like you have started but going any further will need some more clues! Could be coil, sticking float on carb, sommat in the jets, water in the fule, your coil breaking down when warm, your idsle stabilisation unit furbarred...etc etc....
More info,. then those that know will be able to help!
And pop over to general chat to introduce yourself too! Beleive me, ther will be many that understand your frustration!!
Em
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Hi Freebird 
If it is a petrol engine, in this recent cold weather it could very likely be carb icing from your description of the symptoms.
Usually after pulling over and thinking for a mo, it will then re-start and run fine for a short while ( because the ice in the jets has melted) then the whole scenario re-occurs when you get up to speed again !
There is an air feed to the air filter that goes via a heat exchanger on the front right hand cylinder exhaust pipe. A flap is supposed to draw air via that when it is cold.
On a petrol engine that is
(note to others, is it the same system on the Air cooled engines ?)
If it is a petrol engine, in this recent cold weather it could very likely be carb icing from your description of the symptoms.
Usually after pulling over and thinking for a mo, it will then re-start and run fine for a short while ( because the ice in the jets has melted) then the whole scenario re-occurs when you get up to speed again !
There is an air feed to the air filter that goes via a heat exchanger on the front right hand cylinder exhaust pipe. A flap is supposed to draw air via that when it is cold.
On a petrol engine that is
(note to others, is it the same system on the Air cooled engines ?)Got a new van, but it's a 165bhp T4 [shock horror] Accurate LPG Station map here
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Freebird sent me this further information:
Not to sure how to use the board yet bit of a novice.
it is petrol1900 and it starts straight away.
Thanks
Freebird
So if it restarts immediately, is carb icing still an issue?
Other suggestions......
If its on acceleration, sounds like fuel starvation? Rechark jets on carbs?
Possibly also still the pump - when you changed it, did you replace the "needle" (rod that goes up and down inside pump) - mine had worn, and wasn't actually working efficiently enough.
If you are getting no dash lights when it cuts (battery and oil) its electrical. Check your battery connections, earth straps, and alternator connections.
Come on, give us some more clues!!!!
Em
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Not to sure how to use the board yet bit of a novice.
it is petrol1900 and it starts straight away.
Thanks
Freebird
So if it restarts immediately, is carb icing still an issue?
Other suggestions......
If its on acceleration, sounds like fuel starvation? Rechark jets on carbs?
Possibly also still the pump - when you changed it, did you replace the "needle" (rod that goes up and down inside pump) - mine had worn, and wasn't actually working efficiently enough.
If you are getting no dash lights when it cuts (battery and oil) its electrical. Check your battery connections, earth straps, and alternator connections.
Come on, give us some more clues!!!!
Em
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ghost123uk wrote:Hi Freebird
Usually after pulling over and thinking for a mo, it will then re-start and run fine for a short while ( because the ice in the jets has melted) then the whole scenario re-occurs when you get up to speed again !
This is the clue to a carb icing issue, though it could apply to a blocked fuel tank vent, but on our vans this is rarely an issue ( they are usually over vented !! ) - the difference is with blocked fuel tank vents it will take a bit of cranking after the forced stops to get it going again, whereas with carb icing it will go right off the key.
Got a new van, but it's a 165bhp T4 [shock horror] Accurate LPG Station map here
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? worn fuel pump pushrod, usually only a problem at high revs on a run as the pump can't keep up with demand at high revs - I don't have a DG anymore so no spares for one so I can't measure a rod to check length, but I've seen them with a couple of mm wear.
What states the fuel filter, it's only a £1 for a new one.
What states the fuel filter, it's only a £1 for a new one.
engine cutting out
Hi sorry it has taken me so long. Thank you for all your advice.
Took it to the garage today, cut out felt like a million times had to get towed in the end. Mechanic think it is electical fault and advised me to get it towed to auto elec for rolling road test. Thing is lights etc don't go out when engine cuts out. It only cuts out when you put your foot on the accelerater , it will tick over on the drive all day lokg.Not sure how to use general chat. Please advise
Took it to the garage today, cut out felt like a million times had to get towed in the end. Mechanic think it is electical fault and advised me to get it towed to auto elec for rolling road test. Thing is lights etc don't go out when engine cuts out. It only cuts out when you put your foot on the accelerater , it will tick over on the drive all day lokg.Not sure how to use general chat. Please advise
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it may well be electrical, it could be the earths in the engine bay, check and clean them
it maybe a broken wire.
check the +12v down to the coil when it has stopped because of the fault.
if could be fuel starvation,
Its really hard to fault find if you dont go about it logically, in order.
We need to know if there is a spark once it had cut out, immediately after the cut out, we need to know if it just dies or coughs and splutter first....
the more you can tell us the more we can help.
just because the dash lights still work dont mean its isnt electrical
it maybe a broken wire.
check the +12v down to the coil when it has stopped because of the fault.
if could be fuel starvation,
Its really hard to fault find if you dont go about it logically, in order.
We need to know if there is a spark once it had cut out, immediately after the cut out, we need to know if it just dies or coughs and splutter first....
the more you can tell us the more we can help.
just because the dash lights still work dont mean its isnt electrical
Steve
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Hi Mocki
Thanks for the rapid reply, I am sorry if I am a little vague but my partner nor myself know anything about engines or mechanics. If you mean the coil sparking we will have to wait till we get the van back tomorrow, when driving it will drive normally then sometimes it will splutter and backfire and other times it will just cut out when you go to accelerate. The mechanic told us to go to an auto elec with a rolling road to put it under pressure, but that's gonna cost 140 quid plus I have to get towed there and then what if it's not that. Do you or anyone know a good mobile auto elec in the manchester area. My partner loves the van but is getting sick to death with it as he uses it for everyday use to get to work.
Thanks
Thanks for the rapid reply, I am sorry if I am a little vague but my partner nor myself know anything about engines or mechanics. If you mean the coil sparking we will have to wait till we get the van back tomorrow, when driving it will drive normally then sometimes it will splutter and backfire and other times it will just cut out when you go to accelerate. The mechanic told us to go to an auto elec with a rolling road to put it under pressure, but that's gonna cost 140 quid plus I have to get towed there and then what if it's not that. Do you or anyone know a good mobile auto elec in the manchester area. My partner loves the van but is getting sick to death with it as he uses it for everyday use to get to work.
Thanks
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I don't think it's a fuel supply from pump issue. When you accellerate, you say its cutting straight away but the carb will still have a good reserve of fuel in the float chamber and the engine would only cut after about 20-30 seconds of accellerating whel the fuel level drops too low.
When accellerating, do you put your foot straight to the floor or open it up slowly and does the cutting out happen when you do both or just the one?
I would be tempted to guess at an electrical fault, only because when you accellerate the torque rotates the engine slightly and could be pulling or moving a wire or connection but this is a bit of a long shot.
Check all connections anyway, espicially the distributor connection just under the distributor cap and the anti-stall device (far left of engine compartment as you look at it) with 2 round 3-pin connectors plugged into it. Try unplugging these from the box and plugging them in together. The engine will run just fine with the box bypassed this way but will eliminate another possible problem.
If it cuts immediatly when accellerating then I think it could be electrical but if it takes a while then I would say a fuel problem.
Ps. If you can, change the HT ignition coil. They show up as having a problem usually under high engine load.
When accellerating, do you put your foot straight to the floor or open it up slowly and does the cutting out happen when you do both or just the one?
I would be tempted to guess at an electrical fault, only because when you accellerate the torque rotates the engine slightly and could be pulling or moving a wire or connection but this is a bit of a long shot.
Check all connections anyway, espicially the distributor connection just under the distributor cap and the anti-stall device (far left of engine compartment as you look at it) with 2 round 3-pin connectors plugged into it. Try unplugging these from the box and plugging them in together. The engine will run just fine with the box bypassed this way but will eliminate another possible problem.
If it cuts immediatly when accellerating then I think it could be electrical but if it takes a while then I would say a fuel problem.
Ps. If you can, change the HT ignition coil. They show up as having a problem usually under high engine load.
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Hi freebird, there is acouple of places in manchester, 1 is manchester Aircooled but he does work on wasserboxes, another member on here who has recently put up as a mobile mechanic.
https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=
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just click on the link, hope its of use to you.
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