Mud guard liner

Post by **jebiga41** » 30 Sep 2008, 12:37

Just spent all sunday tackling some seam rust behind the front mudguard most of it was removing the grey rubber gunk that lives on the inside of the mudguard to stop water etc hitting the metal. Any idea what this stuff is as its really tough or where to get it as obviously want to replace the stuff i took off if it comes to it would seam sealer do? Any ideas welcome thanks Paul

Post by **Andy syncro-nutz** » 30 Sep 2008, 21:05

That stuff is a bitch! I use a hot air paint stripping gun & and scraper!
Brush on seam sealer will be fine!

Post by **HarryMann** » 30 Sep 2008, 22:10

most of it was removing the grey rubber gunk that lives on the inside of the mudguard to stop water etc hitting the metal.

Yeh Andy, a bitch is a good description!

I just hit it hard with angle grinder; twisted knot brush and full fask mask (and I mean full face protection, Syncronutz baseball cap* and heavy glovz...) it sort of removes it quite well, dunno about paint stripper gun, will have to try that and see...

However, then one can sort any perforation out, as where it has broken down moisture/salts can't get back out and its worse than without protection, so grind the bejessus out of it and stipple/brush/lather Eastwoods Rust Encapsulator over it all, after a good degrease with Eastwoods 'Pre' cleaner

... unless it needs a wee bit of MIGing first, always a conundrum as what to do to get to the back of it, hence Eastwoods liquid Weld thru Zinc wherever I can spray it... it gets sprayed

* Nah, joking, only wear that for best , weddings etc.

Website · Post by **syncrosimon** » 30 Sep 2008, 22:16

I was thinking of putting a piece of plastic card, or similar, in that position infront of the jacking point and behind the wheel. That area takes a hell of a pounding from road debri, and a deflector plate would help prevent further probs. Modern cars all seem to have quite flimsy inner arch protection I assume for just that reason. Even a bit of ally plate sikaflexed on would probably extend the life of that area.

Post by **HarryMann** » 30 Sep 2008, 22:20

I use corrugated plastic sheet (i.e. old Estate Agent's For Sale signs, perfect) mainly at the rear mudgaurd for same purpose , cut out for a 'jam' wedge fit and one self-tapper is usually sufficient...

Only proviso, remove and clean behind at frequent intervals, and do not seal bottom p so water and liquid mud can drip out the bottom, else worse than no protection...

Post by **jebiga41** » 01 Oct 2008, 09:09

found mudguard liners on ebay should do the trick

http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0271424913

Post by **HarryMann** » 01 Oct 2008, 09:37

Great balls of fire! anyone tried them?

Post by **jebiga41** » 01 Oct 2008, 15:42

no but thinking of them maybe we could organise a group purchase with a possible discount what do you think?

Post by **Andy syncro-nutz** » 02 Oct 2008, 12:41

Yeah! really great for hidding all that rot! Beware out of sight out of mind!!

Post by **HarryMann** » 02 Oct 2008, 13:45

My thoughts too, but as with all things like that, an annual removal and good old scrape around a must...

Also occurred to me would they reduce tyre /body clearance in critical areas?

Post by **jebiga41** » 02 Oct 2008, 17:04

wouldn't imagine so as have a pair for the mg i have and only a few mill thick but tough as old nails so imagine would be the same. The thoughts behind them is to provide a plastic lining to prevent the build up of rot from muck water etc and to avoid seam rust etc as they do cover more or less all the exposed area. I would think obviously once the area behind them has been well treated and is sound should help our vans having to undergo arch transplants. Again an annual inspection would probably be a good idea. Am considering getting them myself and will consult with the other few thin on the ground sycro owners in the emerald isle to cut down on shipping but I'd say if we put in a larger order we could obviously get some kind of discount of course you guys would have to sort out the shipping for angleterre so i suppose names if anyone is in let us know

Post by **peasant** » 02 Oct 2008, 19:24

just word of mouth here, no personal experience ...

The colleagues on the german fora don't like the plastic liners ...they don't seem to fit too well. Apparently this

http://www.lokari.com/?s=t_sisalokasuojat&l=eng

http://www.lokari.de/en/produktbeschreibung.php

is where it's at its best

Post by **HarryMann** » 02 Oct 2008, 20:27

Ta! Interesting read, not many people know that about Lokari guards! So the Finns started it all off.

Post by **jebiga41** » 03 Oct 2008, 01:05

yep who would have thought seems like a quite compelling arguement for liners especially considering where syncros go not sure whether to go for the ebay jobs tho but supposidly they will fit with the help of a hot air gun in worse case scenarios

Post by **Syncro G** » 03 Oct 2008, 13:46

jebiga41 wrote:yep who would have thought seems like a quite compelling arguement for liners

Anyone would have thought they were selling them

Never thought of acustic properties before though it seems fairly obveous in hinesight. Herd they can cut drag factors quite a bit when designed well (facelift porsche 997 uses this to significant improvent aparently), which I thought was one of the resions they are common now, coupled with modern cars having so much gubins in the wheel arches they need the protection.

Personly I hate them, all that french plastic that needs ripping out of scrappers when trying to rob the oil cooler or carefully remove on a mates car to survice but end up cracking anyway. They are impressive alone for their ability to break and crack easilly but still require a large amount of energy to remove once broken! I'm not going to rush out to buy some, but if someone gives them a try and finds they have merits I'll consider it. Untill then I'll leave plastic bits to Renult.