Beware cooking oil /chip pan oil t25

Post by **Mercdoctor** » 15 Feb 2006, 20:58

Today I have been to collect a vehicle from a custom/excise vehicle compound (being a truck )and in there is three vw t25s one camper and two panel vans which i will bid on in the next sale ,two run on cooking oil and the other one on red diesel so beware they know you are doing it................

Post by **Ian Hulley** » 16 Feb 2006, 12:35

"and the other one on red diesel "

I can vouch for this too,a guy at work got pulled running on red and had his Discovery impounded. They charged him back-tax from the date of purchase estimated at 10,000 miles/year and at 30 mpg (IIRC) anyway it was pay up about £4K by a set date or lose your vehicle to the evil Doctor Mercus.

Ian.

Post by **Mercdoctor** » 16 Feb 2006, 20:03

to the evil Doctor Mercus.

Post by **quiksilver_jake** » 16 Feb 2006, 20:08

i no loads of people on oil and they cant trace it only smell it if you use old oil from a chippy and you can pay tax on it to make it legal if you wish!

Post by **Mercdoctor** » 16 Feb 2006, 20:22

I can only tell you what i have seen in the custom/excise vehicle compound and i know that V.O.S.A are doing a lot more roadside checks

Post by **Ian Hulley** » 16 Feb 2006, 22:38

mercdoctor wrote:I can only tell you what i have seen in the custom/excise vehicle compound and i know that V.O.S.A are doing a lot more roadside checks

Easy Peasy for them now ... all the records on computer file, MOT, V5, Insurance, inside leg measurement

. No more 'Within 5 days to the station please,sonny' now it's 'Hope you know a good taxi firm !' and some-one's bidding on yer illicit bhaji-burner

hehehe,Ian.

Post by **HarryMann** » 16 Feb 2006, 22:48

.. or crush it. Theres a real blitz on at the mo', whatever you do don't get caught without insurance or tax. herts impounded 2,307 vehciles last eyar and 1,200 were crushed... I was pulled for a front light (dodgy connection), banged it hard and it cam back on... still wanted a 'friendly chat' waited for me to fillup with fuel, and went throught the lot, showed me all the kit they have and ran it thro da puter,

OK, I know you'll check out Ok, but we daren't give producers anymore, never see the sods again, or it'll cost us a week to find them... so we'll take it away if you don't check out - right now

So why you by yourself in a patrol car, that's not normal is it?

Well, 'im upstairs, Chiefy like, told us we gotta hava presence, and sod getting pistol whipped when you're not looking, 'es sent us out single-handed to make numbers look double - bloody dangerous 'tis too!

Ask me, 'tis these Eastern European Egrimants causing all this fuss, and I'm not getting a nice cuppa every hour or so anymore, all go now..

To which I could only say... Oh! Are they the ones with the long tails and speckled green under the chin?

Post by **Ian Hulley** » 17 Feb 2006, 13:07

I guess quite a few pro-drivers will remember the blitz they had in the mid 90's. They'd block the road and direct all commercial stuff through a lay-by,where waiting was the Polizei, D.O.T. inspectors, Customs & Excise,Inland Revenue, D.S.S. the whole 9 yards. They checked EVERYTHING,tacho,licence,National Insurance,Tax status and that's BEFORE they dipped the fuel tank and carried out a roadside M.O.T.

, searched the vehicle from top to bottom and sometimes even escorted you on to the nearest public weighbridge.

Fear stalked the land and it was brown pants all round

. The cowboy firm I was working for got caught with the 'holder' of their 'Operators Licence' who was driving a 38T low-loader was in reality still banned from the road for drink driving

(he was even borderline when they pulled him !). Oh how we laughed as Plod came and cuffed the company chairman and tried to wedge him in the back of a Metro.

Ahhh happy days

Ian.

Post by **HarryMann** » 17 Feb 2006, 15:55

Good story Ian, not so many lesser spotted egrimants about then, but they must ahve had their reasons... EEC or was that John Major's swansong?

Post by **Louey** » 17 Feb 2006, 22:30

My bio is fully legit - got my receipts too.

Come May though and I'll need a form for me veggie oil stuff home brew

Post by **excalibur** » 19 Feb 2006, 16:48

i no loads of people on oil and they cant trace it only smell it if you use old oil

errrr I think you will find we can.

The kit we have is far removed from the the glass tube to check for colour nowadays. As I said on a previous thread, the "sniffer" that is in our roadside detector units can detect it, also the different sulphur content in heating oil can be detected with.

Parrafin and derv might look the same, but we can tell without even having to dip the tank now......beware, yours might be the next in the impound yard

Post by **Timmo** » 11 Jun 2006, 22:06

Even new oil smells though!

It is that sweet deisle/oil smell thats smells a bit like doughnuts!

Think back to when you were a kid and you used to go to the funfair - the big generator lorries they used to use - used to smell just the same!!

Post by **clash460** » 17 Jun 2006, 14:24

the thought of the evil doctor marcus gettin his hands on yer pride an joy has to be some sort of incentive to toe the line
thank St Steve I run LPG

Post by **nomadicwesti** » 23 Jun 2006, 21:50

Its no big deal.
register with the C&E
Each month you send in THE amount of duty due on the amount of veg oil you've used.
Thing is it's not confirmed and is done on trust. You are not required to enter any mileage etc. Thus if ever stopped just show last months Duty receipt and they can;t touch you.
Now I'm not advocating you don;t tell them the full amount you;ve purchased, I'm just pointing out that there is a loophole there...Allegedly...

My Golf has been running fine on rapeseed for a few months now. Unfortunatly my T25 is Aircooled ...next one I buy will be a veg powered diesel.
Cheers
Bry

Post by **Therunner** » 05 Jul 2006, 14:47

What forms do you need, and where do you get them?

cheers

Melvin