window rubbers

Post by **woodola** » 31 Jul 2008, 16:51

could any of you lovely people give me any tips on fitting side window rubbers

Website · Post by **CovKid** » 31 Jul 2008, 17:26

Should be in the WIKI. similar approach to fitting windscreens. Two people needed I'd say.

Post by **woodola** » 31 Jul 2008, 18:05

Thanks for that covkid, i did check the WIKI but couldn't do them, so i called a specialist out from the yellow pages and he couldn't get them in either. Having a bit off a nightmare at the moment. Just thought some one may have fitted them and could give me some advice. The rubbers were from justkampers, I've checked with them to ensure i had the right ones and they told me i had.

Post by **AngeloEvs** » 31 Jul 2008, 18:56

As CovKid says, you need two people, one supporting /pushing from the outside and the other inside pulling the cord. WD40 the seals before doing it and don't be sparing. I always fit the rubber to the window first, put the cord around the rubber channel that will fit onto the bodywork. I always brush grease around the window aperture. It can be awkward if you haven't done one before so I sympathise. Haven't read the wiki but that is how we do it. Best of luck and hope others have tips or methods! Having said that, never used the JK ones.

Website · Post by **CovKid** » 31 Jul 2008, 18:59

Yeah hes right. I have done a bay windscreen in the past and it took a few attempts plus a rather unwilling buddy but once it starts to go in, it goes in fairly briskly.

If I had enough petrol I'd happily drive over and give you a hand.

Post by **woodola** » 31 Jul 2008, 19:09

Thanks for your replys and covkid if your going vanfest I'll by you a pint just for the offer

Post by **Mr Bean** » 31 Jul 2008, 19:27

woodola wrote:Thanks for that covkid, i did check the WIKI but couldn't do them, so i called a specialist out from the yellow pages and he couldn't get them in either. Having a bit off a nightmare at the moment. Just thought some one may have fitted them and could give me some advice. The rubbers were from justkampers, I've checked with them to ensure i had the right ones and they told me i had.

I am the Westinghouse Brake and Signal company Lea Bridge Road Depot cabinet window fitting champion 1858 and have fitted windows into a number of vehicle and a boat over time. I assume you are talking about section with locking insert such as you can also buy at wilks. If so at what stage are you having difficulty? I have to say that I find the proprietary fitting tool somewhat difficult to use and have one I made many years ago. This is basically a 1/4" ratchet drive handle with the square cut off and an insert shaped 16SWG piano wire loop soldered into a hole in the end.[IMG]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e169/ ... C05570.jpg[/img] [IMG]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e169/ ... C05571.jpg[/img] I install all my windows with the insert inside the van so as to make it just a bit harder for the window to be slipped out in seconds by removal of the insert. I fit the rubber to the van first and with the help of an assistant (usually my wife who argues relentlesly with me but without who many of my hairbrain schemes would fail to come to fruition) and start off by sitting the glass into the bottom run. I then work up each side using a combination of blunted screwdriver and decorating scraper until I am at the top. This is where the trouble starts. The corners are particularly difficult. It is sometimes posible to start in the middle at the top and work out towards the ends. This is where the blunt screwdriver comes into play. For fiting the insert I always use washing up liquid - sparingly and try not to strech the insert as it will gradually shrink back to leave a gap. My last session was particularly tricky as I had removed the glass in order to fit window tint film. This is very easy to damage if you slip. I also replaced the slider with a pane cut polished and hardened my my local glass merchant for under £30. As I say I would be interested to know the exact nature of your difficulty. Shame you are so far away. I like a challenge!
Regards
Ken

Post by **woodola** » 31 Jul 2008, 20:00

I'ts a little difficult to explain, but it seems that the rubbers are to big to go in, and we we're having trouble keeping the actual rubbers around the glass when trying to fit, they keep popping off, we also keep getting a gap between the two ends. I did however think that they would be better with the inserts inside but was told they must go on the outside, as they would perish quickly?. The chap who came today asked if it was the same window screen, he did manage to get the window screen in after 3hrs but said we needed to re-seat it again when the heats been on it. But said he couldn't fit the sides in as they wont go.

Post by **AngeloEvs** » 31 Jul 2008, 20:14

Woodola, are you just replacing the rubbers, in other words, using the original windows in the original apertures?

Post by **woodola** » 31 Jul 2008, 20:47

yeah just the rubbers.

Post by **R0B** » 31 Jul 2008, 21:03

seems very odd.a professional says he cant fit them..are both old and new rubbers the same size..

Post by **woodola** » 31 Jul 2008, 21:18

Well we have auto windscreens coming in the morning, they reckon they'll fit them no bother, we will have to see. In answer to your question they were that perished when we took them out we slung them away

assumed maybe wrongly that there would'nt much difference if any. They were the one's reccomended by JK. We have spoken to someone tonight who owns a garage, and it took two of his men to fit one window in a day using the JK rubbers in the end he also called on a proffesional and they reckoned they were right barstewards to fit.

Post by **AngeloEvs** » 31 Jul 2008, 21:21

New ones will seem too big, but they will go in. Sometimes it is necessary to cut a small section out, rebond the join and stretch the rubber to thin it out a tad. Bet he gets em in as they are though.

Post by **R0B** » 31 Jul 2008, 21:22

you dont give any details of your van.are they factory fitted.theres a chance they may be a different size.if they were not..

Post by **woodola** » 31 Jul 2008, 21:25

i really hope so .will update tomorrow