does any one camp with out an eber? + thermo curtains

Post by **quiksilver_jake** » 06 Feb 2006, 18:49

officially a member !! sent it off just !

Post by **jokerdub** » 07 Feb 2006, 11:10

We have slept in my panel van with no insulation or heaters and it was kin freezin!
Im gonna get some inso behind the panels in the summer and may get an ebber (Im gettin old)

Post by **quiksilver_jake** » 07 Feb 2006, 17:06

does any one no whats the best insulation to use as i want to pack it behind my door cards and then wack them back on ! should be cozy!!

Post by **ROBS T25** » 07 Feb 2006, 20:08

mate of mine is using loft insulation its well thick didnt cost him much so may do it myself for that extra bit

Post by **quiksilver_jake** » 07 Feb 2006, 20:14

what about it been fire proff wreckon it would be a good idea to use some that is fire proof (not sure if loft insulation is or not?)

Post by **ROBS T25** » 07 Feb 2006, 20:18

not to sure me self mate but reckon it would be but lets face it by the time the fire burns through your cards you should be well out of it anyone know whether it is or not?

Post by **g60steve** » 07 Feb 2006, 23:36

Kingspan. http://www.kingspanpanels.com/
Available in different thicknesses and FireSafe according to the website.
P!ss easy to cut to shape with a Stanley knife....and as it's in rigid panels it doesn't itch you to ferkin death as well...which is good

Available from Travis Perkins and most large builders merchants.....kin ell that sounds like an advertisement

Post by **jed the spread** » 08 Feb 2006, 07:29

i wouldnt use travis perkins they are well dear if you only want a few sheets.better ring a few other places.alot of timber yards sell it at a fare price as its used in loft conversions.

jed

Post by **syncroand101** » 08 Feb 2006, 08:41

When I removed some of the old insulation out of my Westie (because it was soaking wet having absorbed what felt like a swimming pools worth of water (allowing the panels to rust badly

) I replaced it with this stuff

Loft Insulation

Which won't absorb moisture, its also light weight - also choose the right width and it fits perfectly, just cut to length!

Post by **Cate** » 08 Feb 2006, 10:30

Ebers are comfort, silver screens work very well, bought a whole new set for my velle rather than doing a curtain set up, worked out cheaper too, keep heat out or heat in, whichever you want. Just take extra bedding or a warm person.

Post by **Cruz** » 13 Feb 2006, 19:06

syncroand101 wrote:When I removed some of the old insulation out of my Westie (because it was soaking wet having absorbed what felt like a swimming pools worth of water (allowing the panels to rust badly ) I replaced it with this stuff

Loft Insulation

Which won't absorb moisture, its also light weight - also choose the right width and it fits perfectly, just cut to length!

Why not get the wider 600mm insulation roll, some window suckers from any DIY discount store and make your own thermal window mats?

Post by TD » 13 Feb 2006, 19:45

Were heaters made because people wanted them, or because they were there?
I find it amazing, I've been 'vanning since the 70s in T2/T25 and only used bedding and 'natural ' warmth ( the wife).
And now there is Global Warming , never had that in my day.
get insulated, ( therom screen great)get good bedding chuck the heaters out , a waste of weight . Stock up with more wine/beer.

Post by **quiksilver_jake** » 13 Feb 2006, 20:13

for 50 odd quid thermo mats pre made are a bargain from jk and ive now insluated it with loft insulation its fire proof all ready appart from my cooker now

Post by **golfcarmad** » 19 Feb 2006, 21:36

just bought t25,came with thermal curtains,slept out overnight temp = -4C,thermal curatins and duvet were brill!! Had difficulty opening door in morning due to seals being frozen,agree with person about kettle/tea first thing.

Post by **HarryMann** » 21 Feb 2006, 00:26

Fireproofness...

Kingspan. http://www.kingspanpanels.com/
Available in different thicknesses and FireSafe according to the website.
P!ss easy to cut to shape with a Stanley knife....and as it's in rigid panels it doesn't itch you to ferkin death as well...which is good
Available from Travis Perkins and most large builders merchants.....kin ell that sounds like an advertisement

Pretty sure if you hold a lighter under this stuff, you'll get a surprise...

firesafe and fireproof are probably very different things. I think this type of Celotex (an alternative make) is intended for dry lining and roof insulation (outside the rafters). It has a fire rating, which is a time the ally face can be exposed to flame before the whole lot goes up. Try a little bit!
NB. Narrowboaters know just about all these insulation materials, some are experts at using expanding foam in 'orrible shaped places. It was a canal drifter that told me Kingspan burns easily.

Also, although its good stuff for sure (my shed is lined with it, and a large compost heap!) it won't bend and you'll find few surfaces that are flat, and if the insulation leaves unfilled voids

condensation

rapid corrosion.

What Jake (SyncroAnd101) is using would still burn in a fire (what won't, painted steel even), but seems much more appropriate, esp. for curved surfaces. Best to bond insulation onto the surface to be insulated unless you're sure its pushed fully up to it over full surface.

Foil faced sleeping mats (12mm thick) are semi-flexible and by my tests, take a little longer to ignite than Celotex/Kingspan and doesn't flow and drip so readily either, but will still eventually flare-up. They offer better sound insulation, and anti-drumming if bonded directly to the surface..

As someone said, if the fire is behind panels and in the roof, it's starting to get a bit late in the day to be worrying too much - use a smoke alarm! The van is full of combustibles anyway...

NB. You can get 1" thick celotex for blinding off, which bends a bit in one plane...

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