Are you an Innie or an Outie?

Post by **steffanstringer** » 31 Jan 2006, 14:48

Whilst I was browsing the galleries posted in Boltze's thread http://www.club80-90.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3117 it reminded me of the dilemma I had when installing my own truck mirrors onto the Doka. As they are asymmetrical do you put them with the wider section outwards or inwards -

Innie

or an Outie?

[pictures borrowed from Boltze]

I went for Outie myself reasoning this would give me the best 'angle' and that the admiring public doesn't have to be exposed to the ugly head of the fixing bolt. Does mean they can call me big ears though

Steff

Post by **missusjen** » 31 Jan 2006, 16:40

Apparently it's totally up to your midwife.....

Post by **syncroand101** » 31 Jan 2006, 16:47

I would never even have occurred to me to put the mirrors on the outside!? Seems madness. Making an already wide vehicle even wider! Mind you I do live in London so traffic is best avoided with mirrors - but the same should go for offroad...

My mirrors are of such a curvature to offer great visibility even with them "in".

Post by **Cate** » 31 Jan 2006, 18:04

I think I would prefer to have something hit the bars rather than the mirror itself, therefore I would be an innie, given the mirrors!

Post by **steffanstringer** » 31 Jan 2006, 18:16

missusjen wrote:Apparently it's totally up to your midwife.....

something to do with how they tie the knot?

Steff

Post by **steffanstringer** » 31 Jan 2006, 18:32

syncroand101 wrote:I would never even have occurred to me to put the mirrors on the outside!? Seems madness. Making an already wide vehicle even wider!

Funny how people differ - they just looked so wrong on the inside. I couldn't have believed anyone would have designed them to go that way 'round.

Cheers

Steff

Post by **Aidan** » 31 Jan 2006, 19:12

er, both....innie on the nearside, outie on the offside, NATO canopy on a Doka, lhd in the uk...whichever makes sense.

Post by **crazydiamond** » 01 Feb 2006, 08:10

As always there is legislation concerning this (if it were a factory produced vehicle) in that the maximum overhang beyond the width of the vehicle is 200mm per side, and there is a specified "field of vision " for the mirrors to see covered by EEC directive 71/127, 79/795, 85/205 etc.
In practice allowing for the extra adjustment required for the passenger side, it is possible that the passenger mirror is mounted outboard and the drivers will be inboard. but as Aiden has allready said, with the mirrors outboard you will see almost behind the vehicle, well at least a little bit. As lots of you know, when driving offroad the mirrors can be protected by folding in against the window, and the "D" framed arms do this far better as they have an indented return position, than the friction standard mirrors. So in the end you can do as it pleases you, but keep the mirrors as close to the vehicle as possible to minimise breakages even from passing scenery. I managed to kill a standard mirror in Ireland on the scenery.

Guess what I used to design?

Post by **Diamond Hell** » 01 Feb 2006, 08:25

I thought it was spotlights and ways of burying vehicles......

Post by **crazydiamond** » 01 Feb 2006, 08:41

Spotlights mirrors (Scania Daf Vauxhall Frontera and lots of others)and yes burying vehicles, now its airfied ground lighting......

Post by **Diamond Hell** » 01 Feb 2006, 09:33

Geoff Crazy Diamond - partly responsible for the Vauxhall Frontera.

That's it now. Your reputation is toast.

(You're missing a consonant, by the way)

Post by **Louey** » 01 Feb 2006, 09:46

Diamond Hell wrote:
(You're missing a consonant, by the way)

Whats this???

Is Thomas Cowley the new presenter of Countdown

Post by **Diamond Hell** » 01 Feb 2006, 10:52

I was thinking more Graham Rawle's Lost Consonants rather than some cheap tat on the TV.

Airfied lighting anyone.

Airfried lighting?
Fairfied lighting?
airfied lightning?

Possibly even airfield lighting....

Even better - Vauxhall Frontera - 'another hit Vauxhall' - spot the missing consonant there.....

Post by **Cate** » 01 Feb 2006, 11:40

I managed to kill a standard mirror in Ireland on the scenery.

I'm 3 mirrors down... Jakebean killed one on scenery, damn those trees, & a lorry killed another as it squeezed past too close outside Hell's old house, and a roadsign killed another when it leapt out and stood too close when I was reversing. I guess foldy on ones would be a good idea, except when they do so at high speeds on the motrorways.

Maybe 'Airfired lightning'?

Post by **Diamond Hell** » 01 Feb 2006, 11:44

The mirrors on arms as shown further up the page 'don't' fold in, according to Jake - another benefit over the god awful standard small ones. That said on some of the greenlanes I've been down I think I'd be happier losing a £10 mirror rather than a £10 mirror and £50 arm, too......