Aircooled on gas?

Post by **Rozzo** » 27 Dec 2007, 14:27

hi all
i heard that Aircooled gas conversions aren't too good. but julie jiblets runs hers on gas ok i think? wonder what folk reckon as petrol is stupidly expensive now isn't it.
whats the ballpark price for converting an Aircooled?
cheers
julian

Post by **jed the spread** » 27 Dec 2007, 14:50

as for cost and quality it depends on who does it. like anything else mate you get what you pay for really. If you do more than 5000 miles a year i'd say do it as you will get your money back soon enough. as for cost i know julie had hers done a while ago and it has run sweet as it was done right but i don't think the bloke who did it doesn't do them anymore although if you asked him nicely like you never know

jed

Post by **R0B** » 27 Dec 2007, 15:37

julian.give steve shaw a bell http://www.gasure.co.uk/ have a word with him.he will put you right.....

Post by **Mocki** » 27 Dec 2007, 22:33

aircold run really really nice on lpg, if they are set up right........
Jew~lee 's was converted about mid 2004 and has done may thousands of miles......

her engine had been roun the clock before lpg was fitted!

call mr shaw, when he gets back from his festive break......

Post by **NewarkNutter** » 28 Dec 2007, 16:40

My air-cooled runs really well on gas.
Very sweet and economical!

I have quite an old fes conversion which takes heat from the exhaust directly by gas probe. There are some with water heat exchangers now and some that run from the oil system. I understand though that the oil ones take some time to warm up and at this time of the year are best started on petrol.

The only criticism of my system I would have is that I have to adjust the mixture depending on the type of driving I am doing. If I take the van for long runs along French motorways in the summer I have to richen the mixture in order to retain power and cool running. Then if I start to do stop start around town I have to turn the gas down a bit or it runs rich and uses too much fuel.

Because of this I have recently bought myself a lambda sensor kit to adjust this mixture change automatically (hopefully).

I haven't fitted it yet but I will let you know how it goes.

Andy

Post by **Mocki** » 28 Dec 2007, 20:08

in my opinion, which mostly doesnt count for much, the probe in the silencer sys is more than good enough for the job, the exhaust heats up plenty fast enough to warm the gas, and the probe is plenty safe enough.

Jew~lee's runs on the probe system, and very well at that.( its apparently the oil she has trouble with now)

Post by **kevtherev** » 28 Dec 2007, 22:10

Mocki wrote: its apparently the oil she has trouble with now)

yes ...or rather the inability of the engine to keep it inside

Post by **NewarkNutter** » 29 Dec 2007, 10:23

Yes indeed the exhaust probe is very able to heat the gas, warm up is quick and I certainly have no issues with safety (though it doesn't strictly comply with the LPGA Cop 11).
I certainly wouldn't countenance the fitting of complicated water filled heat exchanger system to what is a very basic and therefore reliable engine.
I am finding variations in temp and therefore gas density/mixture under different running conditions though. It maybe where the probe is placed in my exhaust or possibly something else to do with the condition of my engine which is causing this. I have lived with this for some time but have decided to make the change to a self managing system in the hopes I will have to fiddle less.
It was our trip across France to Spain last year that made me decide to try this.
I'm hoping to fit the system in the coming week; I'll post here to let any interested parties know how it went.

Andy

Post by **Rozzo** » 29 Dec 2007, 11:28

cheers for the info so far guys,, all very interesting. i'll speak to steve shaw but i definately don't want anything to do with water around my engine

(the very idea

)
cheers
julian

Post by **Ray** » 29 Dec 2007, 14:58

I had a 2L Aircooled from FES that had the exhaust probe. Ran better on gas than petrol and savings make you chuffed all the time you are driving

Post by **speleobod** » 12 Jan 2008, 18:24

Had a Gasure conversion now for 2 yrs by Steve who came to me to fit it on my 2ltr Aircooled. Put in cooler plugs (see wiki) and it runs a sweet as a nut. Run it a few miles on petrol every month to keep the cobwebs out of the fuel pump system. No complaints and if I search I can still get LPG around 39-42 p litre.

Well worth doing. LPG everywhere in Europe and even Northern Norway.

Post by **meggles** » 27 Jan 2008, 21:47

Read these postings and am no wiser.
How much would it cost to have my 2.0 air cooled converted to lpg. Is it a wise move? I would want the conversion and a full engine set up. I had an LT28 with 5 cylinder Audi engine on gas and it was great! I am just not sure 'cos this one is air cooled.
All advice much appreciated.

Post by **kevtherev** » 27 Jan 2008, 22:10

meggles wrote:Read these postings and am no wiser.
How much would it cost to have my 2.0 air cooled converted to lpg. Is it a wise move? I would want the conversion and a full engine set up. I had an LT28 with 5 cylinder Audi engine on gas and it was great! I am just not sure 'cos this one is air cooled.
All advice much appreciated.

costs about the same as a waterboxer and I think paying half price for fuel is wise
speak to steve ...he will tell you more

his fitting means you drive in and drive home on gas

Post by **mikey9** » 28 Jan 2008, 07:32

Speleobod
Where can you "still get LPG around 39-42 p litre." - ??? Go on spill the beanz

Not doubting you - just shocked as that is 20-25% cheaper than we can get up here!!!!

Post by **kevtherev** » 28 Jan 2008, 07:48

mikey9 wrote: cheaper than we can get up here!!!!

where's here?

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