diesel and turbo diesel problem

Post by **jonk65** » 20 Oct 2007, 09:51

Hi have just got a 1.9d camper and I have a 1.6td could take all the turbo parts off the 1.6td and fit them to the 1.9d. Or will this be a big problem. If so would the better option be find knackered 1.9td (out of a golf ect ) and fit that to the engine. I would grateful if some one could help. Thanks Jon.

Post by **camper** » 20 Oct 2007, 11:32

1.9d normal asperated engine is built diffrent to 1.9td turbo diesel engine.Example oil cooling jets for cylinders & cylinder head diffrences to accept higher temps running with a turbo i think this is the material that the valves are made of.Dont swop the parts off the 1.6td on to the 1.9n or you will bu***r the engine.If its a good condition 1.9n it should run the t25 well.

Post by **jonk65** » 23 Oct 2007, 07:06

thanks for info. Looks to be I need a new engine a td when I can afford one. Thanks Jon

Post by **Dubkopfeyellow** » 23 Oct 2007, 07:30

Whats wrong with the 1.6 Td you have? Might be worth just fitting that?

Post by **jonk65** » 29 Oct 2007, 09:44

Hi, There is nothing wrong with the 1.6td I just wanted to turbo the 1.9d. I have just got the 1.9d home now

. It needed a water pump which I have fitted. We got it running to a fashion. It sounded to be working on three cylinders and blowing out unburnt diesel

. Cleared up when we were on the motorway, (I put some jet cleaner in the tank and it started to run better) (65 flatout). When I got it and arranged somewhere to keep it I tried to start it. It was hard as it would not tick over at all

. I managed to get to where i needed. The next day I tried to see why it wasn't runing properly. I tried to start it only to find now it was turing over too fast. Had a look at the engine only to find the fuel pump loose and the timing belt was off

. I never heard any nasty noises before it fell off so I am going to try and have belt fitted again. The previous owner tried to replace the water pump himself, would appear he did not know what he was doing as he slackened thing off that he should not have touched. I paid £411.00 on the leisure drive camper so even if the engine is a non runner I think its still cheap. what do you all think

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Post by **camper** » 29 Oct 2007, 11:32

You may be lucky not to have a damaged engine.But a timing belt off after the engine running.Slipping of a cam sprocket due to a loose belt.Is terminal most times due to valve interference with a piston.what you need to do is set flywheel to T.D.C there is a pointer and V mark through the plug hole bell housing gearbox.Insert injection pump locking pin & camshaft setting tool in the slot at the rear of the cam.This is a very basic explaination others on here may give advice.Once you have fitted a new timing belt correctly tensioned.Turn the engine over by hand you can use the crankshaft pulley bolt & see if it will turn freely.The water pump should have been easy to fit.I would advice to get the basics.Others on here will advice.

Post by **jonk65** » 29 Oct 2007, 12:34

Water pump was easy. I dont understand why the outher things had been slackend. I'm trying to get someone to help me put on the belt as I hav'nt done that sort of thing before (useing old belt to see if everything is ok before I buy new). When I had the belt changed on my 1.6td the mechanic told me that you need to take off the rocker cover to get the cam timing. I don't know if this is right.

Post by **camper** » 29 Oct 2007, 13:46

Take the camshaft cover off which as your mechanic has discribed as a rocker cover.If the loose belt is still on the cam sprocket and crankshaft sprocket did not slip if it had it would change the engine & cam timing incorrect.Set as i discribed the engine at T.D.C ie remove plastic plug out bell housing.Turn engine untill V mark lines up with pointer which can be seen with a penlight torch through the hole of removed plastic plug.Engine at T.D.C ie the piston at the top of its stroke.The cam lobes of no1 &no4 cylinder from the removed cam /rocker cover should be pointing at 10 oclock & 2 oclock the pistons of 1&4 would be at the top of there stroke.A cam setting tool then can be slid into a slot that is at the opposite end to the cam sprocket.If the belt slipped off the cam sprocket and then want to turn the engine to T.D.C as i discribed it may be the cam shaft is in the wrong position for turning engine to it.Which means coming off T.D.C so the piston dont interfere with the valves to get the cam lobes on no1&no4 cylinder position at 10 oclock and 2 oclock. Just need to say this there is no room for error setting the cam with the engine timing when replacing the cam belt.You got to get it right before you attempt to start the engine.Or damage to the valves or camshaft train will occur.Get some one who no what they are doing if you are not confident.

Post by **andysimpson** » 29 Oct 2007, 22:17

camper wrote:1.9d normal asperated engine is built diffrent to 1.9td turbo diesel engine.Example oil cooling jets for cylinders & cylinder head diffrences to accept higher temps running with a turbo i think this is the material that the valves are made of.Dont swop the parts off the 1.6td on to the 1.9n or you will bu***r the engine.If its a good condition 1.9n it should run the t25 well.

The 1.9 N/A has cooling jets, there are only slight differences in the bottom end compared to a TD and will run with turbo setup without any problems.

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