Fire extingusher

Post by **BaaaadSlider** » 02 Oct 2007, 09:22

Hi, we have two small fire extingushers in the van and was thinkin of gettin a bigger one for safety reasons just wondered what you would recommend?
I have been offered a 2kg powder one for £48 is that what sort is best?
Thanks in advance for any help
Katie x

Post by **irishkeet** » 02 Oct 2007, 09:28

hi
was at the jk techenders 2 weeks ago and we had a talk from a fireman on this subject
aldi are doing a powder one for about £6 this will be fine for a van
the powder puts out a hell of a lot of fire, use in short bursts

£48 is way too much in my opinion

Post by **High Peaker** » 02 Oct 2007, 13:59

Also, could you safely and securly stow and use a 2kg extinguisher?
1kg is fine - one in cab and one in camper area. Screwfix ones are around £14 (Aldi even cheaper!)

Post by **Bowton Lad** » 02 Oct 2007, 14:30

Strictly speaking Dry Powder extinguishers are for electrical fires & fires involving flammable liquids. They are not really intended for use on fires involving 'Normal Combustibles' eg. paper, wood & textiles.

One of our members, young Mr.Hulley, has got his hands on an A.F.F.F. (foam) exinguisher - now that is a good one to have. Only thing is they are not cheap, you would have to go to a fire protection company to get one.

Post by **BaaaadSlider** » 02 Oct 2007, 14:38

thanks for all your replys.
What are all u peeps using in ya vans then?

Post by **ermie571** » 02 Oct 2007, 15:25

Strictly speaking Dry Powder extinguishers are for electrical fires & fires involving flammable liquids

Is this for the engine bay, then?

what happens if you use them on "normal" combustables?

thanks

Emma

Post by **Bowton Lad** » 02 Oct 2007, 16:01

ermie571 wrote:
Strictly speaking Dry Powder extinguishers are for electrical fires & fires involving flammable liquids

Is this for the engine bay, then?

what happens if you use them on "normal" combustables?

thanks

Emma

Emma, dry powder extinguishers are suitable for the engine bay but they don't half make a mess. One of the A.F.F.F. type would be better & it would be easier to clean up the engine bay afterwards.

Dry powder is not guaranteed to cover fires involving paper, wood & textiles properly, so if it can't exclude air (oxygen) the fire won't be extinguished. Water is the best extingushing media for normal combustibles.

At the moment I've got a dry powder extinguisher & a fire blanket in my camper but ideally I would like an A.F.F.F. as well. Just for the record A.F.F.F. stands for: Aqueous Film Forming Foam. It could be used both inside a camper & in the engine bay.

Post by **R0B** » 02 Oct 2007, 16:15

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-1-75-LTR-AFFF ... 0165769904

Post by **Bowton Lad** » 02 Oct 2007, 16:22

sukhoi27 wrote:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-1-75-LTR-AFFF ... 0165769904

Thanks for that link, Rob.

The A.F.F.F. on ebay is a 3 litre with a long hose on it. Good price - cheaper than I would have expected. A 1.5 litre with a fixed nozzle would be more appropriate for a vehicle.

Post by **Bowton Lad** » 02 Oct 2007, 16:27

Now Robert, stop playing tricks on the Lad.

The 3l A.F.F.F. has now mysteriously become a 1.75l one. That's spot on.
They've deffo come down in price or someone's bought a pallett load of them.

Post by **R0B** » 02 Oct 2007, 16:30

i wonder if they would offer a discount.if a few of us ordered one...

Post by **Bowton Lad** » 02 Oct 2007, 16:39

sukhoi27 wrote:i wonder if they would offer a discount.if a few of us ordered one...

Good idea! I think that I'll contact the seller. Middleton - not too far away.

Post by **Bowton Lad** » 02 Oct 2007, 16:49

Message regarding possible bulk order price & possible collection to save on postal charges sent to seller. Awaiting reply.

Another possibility is to contact a fire protection company direct. I will look into this idea tonight.

Post by **Bowton Lad** » 02 Oct 2007, 20:52

I have emailed 2 fire protection companies, one in Manchester & one in Torquay to see if they will offer us a discount on a bulk purchase of 2l AFFF fire extinguishers.

The advertised prices are £26.43 & £28.14 respectively (incl.VAT) so we will have to wait & see if they will offer a discount. I am also going to contact a couple of fire extinguisher manufacturers direct (Chubb & Kidde).

The 2l AFFFs on ebay are old stock

& there are only 3 available. I won't be ordering old stock. It would be helpful to know how many members might be interested in purchasing an AFFF extinguisher. If we do get a bulk order organised then we will most likely need to use the ever reliable 80-90 express to deliver them.

Post by **Bigtone** » 02 Oct 2007, 21:44

Working on railway we mainly use AFFF apart from in cabs of the newer trains where powder is king.
Having used AFFF (albeit in training) it is very easy to use in a confined space, i.e a camper, and you can use it on yer seats, engine, and yer toast!
Powder is great on all things electrical but doesn't half make a mess everywhere, seconds to extinguish flame, weeks hoovering the powder out of everywhere, also in a confined space as soon as you let rip with it it's hard to see and breathe through the clouds.

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