1Y v 1.6TD

Post by **ELVIS** » 09 Sep 2007, 20:18

thinking of putting a 1Y in as i cant aford a new engine and turbo right now. more than happy to drive at 55/60 . anyone driven both ?comparisons ? mpg ? etc etc i know its a step back in power etc but is the 1Y liveable with ?cheers

Post by **SplendiferousII** » 10 Sep 2007, 10:31

I am going to go with the 1Y upgrade from my 1.6D.

Post by **ringo** » 10 Sep 2007, 11:46

If i had a bit more spare cash i would swap!

The 1Y IMHO is liveable - i can do 65 all day. The MPG aint as good as my 1.7d (late twenties to early thirties - doesnt seem to matter how i drive it) but the torque up hills is vastly better.

Sorry, never driven a 1.6td so can't compare.

Personally, if you aint going down the AAZ route, i would sell your engine and buy a 1.6/1.7 na engine (you should end up with a fair bit of profit - a 1.6td non runner at vanfest was going for £450) then use the parts off that to do your conversion.

Ringo

Post by **SplendiferousII** » 10 Sep 2007, 12:00

Really the 1Y engine only gives 20's to low 30's MPG?

My 1.6d is in the high 40's MPG.

Post by **ELVIS** » 10 Sep 2007, 12:44

wookeys is getting 40+ , yours set up ok ? if the engine has a few wxtra cc's surely it will have to work less for same performance ! if you have a shuftie you will see the 1Y produces more torque at lower revs than the 1.6 td !! im not hung up on the whole AAZ thing , im happy to cruise at 55/65 tops.

Post by **ringo** » 10 Sep 2007, 13:49

Yep - i was quite disappointed as you can imagine.

I was getting mid to high thirties with my 1.7.

What can i change regarding setup on a diesel ?

I need to read up regarding checking gaps in tappets - but not sure what else i can do....

Ringo

Post by **ELVIS** » 10 Sep 2007, 15:00

cam timing , injection pump timing , make sure some fool hasnt meddled with max fuel screw.
i did my own cam timing with a kit i bought off ebay(more than welcome to borrow it if ya want)- basically you make sure engine is at TDC , lock the cam (using a tool in the notch on end nearest flywheel) , loosen cam pulley-its on a taper fit- and then make sure all the three vaiables are spot on (TDC/injection pump/cam) then retighten cam pulley once youve moved it
, pump timing KERRMIT helped me with (ok , he did it!) 15 mins work and need a dial guage .
possible someone has replaced your belt and its a bit to "cock". my cam timing was maybe 8 degrees out and injection timing by 0.1mm - both made a huge impreovement in mpg AND performance AND timing

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/forum ... cam+timing

Post by **Kermit** » 10 Sep 2007, 19:02

What's wrong with your current SB engine Elvis? thought that was bombing along....

Your welcome to take my 1Y out for a spin if you like, but be warned you will notice the difference (lack of) power compared to yours .. excelleration in yours felt quicker and also comparing to my previous JX it seems slower now.

Kerr

Post by **ELVIS** » 10 Sep 2007, 19:29

turbo seals gone , lost loadsa oil , shagged bottom end! whoops

Post by **ringo** » 10 Sep 2007, 21:26

Thanks for that Elvis - looks like i need to get some specialist tools or find a garage that can do this for me...

Cheers

Ringo

Post by **"WEAZLECHIN"** » 13 Sep 2007, 20:18

ive got a 1y in and if i dont get 40+ mpg there is something wrong.

Post by **ringo** » 21 Sep 2007, 08:16

Sorry to hog this thread guys - but those of you that are running the 1Y, what gear box do you have ?

I still have the one from the 1.7d and was wondering if its worth a change ?

Ringo

Post by **ELVIS** » 21 Sep 2007, 10:05

did you get your engine tuned/sorted ringo ?

Post by **ringo** » 21 Sep 2007, 13:19

ELVIS wrote:did you get your engine tuned/sorted ringo ?

I wish! No time, no special tools and not much motivation at the moment. Im too busy camping in the van to actually maintain it!

If i can get hold of the tools i might give it a go.

Will this do?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Diesel-Timing-Kit ... dZViewItem

Thanks

Ringo

Post by **ELVIS** » 21 Sep 2007, 14:34

just going away to parents for w/end - drop me a PM and will reply sun/mon and you can have a lend of mine. can post em next week . same kit with locking pin,cam plate and 2 sets of feeler guages.