help sump plug spinning

Post by **markeymagicbus** » 22 Jul 2007, 17:15

hi

any ideas how i can get my sump plug out its spinning at the mo , i have a spare engine , can you change the sump

its a 1.9 petrol water cooled if that helps

thanks mark

Post by **wasserleaker** » 22 Jul 2007, 18:45

the engine cases are split vertically and the sump plug thread is in one half of the pair, so you cant swap the sump for a good one if the thread is knackd, like you can with an air-cooled eng.
try gripping the bolt tightly with mole grips/self grip wrench and applying downward force as well as anti-clockwise [undo-ing] force and it may come out, then you'll need to rethread the hole bigger with a suitable thread cutting taper tap, and get an M16 x 1.5 renault sump plug, or helicoil insert it and re-use std. sump plug. [M14 X 1.5 MM Pitch, if i remember right.]

Post by **markeymagicbus** » 22 Jul 2007, 19:09

thanks

ive tried to give it some down ward turms with a pair of grips but no joy

looks like i will have to drill it ,,, balls

Post by **wasserleaker** » 22 Jul 2007, 19:17

seems quite a common prob, mine was held in with body filler and virtually fell out when i tried to undo it! [cheers, previous owner!] heavy handed t-wats.
had to re-tap it and fit a bigger bolt.

Post by **markeymagicbus** » 22 Jul 2007, 19:19

now thats scary

Post by **T'Onion** » 22 Jul 2007, 21:11

you could try a couple of screw drivers and lever the bolt whilst another try's turning the bolt .. slowly .. it may just catch

Post by **Hacksawbob** » 22 Jul 2007, 22:55

drill out the existing bolt?

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Post by **HarryMann** » 22 Jul 2007, 23:26

Try t'onions 2-pry-bars or 2 screwdrivers first, with three hands you should be able to get it to start some sort of thread action, even if partially crossed (its coming out anyway).. then I'm afraid its a helicoil or drill and retap to larger plug as WSLKR says

Post by **T'Onion** » 23 Jul 2007, 08:29

also markeymagicbus, fill your profile in , you could be next door to someone how maybe able to help

Post by **Dan Wood** » 23 Jul 2007, 09:12

Mine was held in with a rubber washer when I got the van!

Re-tapped, and now has the bigger frenchpoo bolt mentioned above.

(OK, so those that know me know that *I* didn't re-tap it, but somebody did it for me!)

Post by **markeymagicbus** » 23 Jul 2007, 19:23

thanks all

ive updated my profile , sorry should of done that earlier

ive tried to get some levers behind it but its recesed abit so that tricky

if it ever stops raining i might go out and drill it !!!!!

thank again all

Post by **wasserleaker** » 23 Jul 2007, 20:39

good luck with it, mate!

might be a stupid idea, but what about drilling it to just take a steel expanding anchor bolt/rawlbolt intended for masonry fixings, [about 10mm] and tightening that in there so you have a bit more to grab with the grips to apply a bit of downforce while you try to get it turning with a ring spanner? just a thought

Post by **markeymagicbus** » 23 Jul 2007, 20:45

good idea .

will give a try tomorrow

if it stops bloody raining

Post by **HarryMann** » 23 Jul 2007, 23:52

OR just Mig a bolt or bit of studding to it?

Post by **VeeDubster** » 04 Aug 2007, 08:32

wasserleaker wrote:the engine cases are split vertically and the sump plug thread is in one half of the pair, so you cant swap the sump for a good one if the thread is knackd, like you can with an air-cooled eng.
try gripping the bolt tightly with mole grips/self grip wrench and applying downward force as well as anti-clockwise [undo-ing] force and it may come out, then you'll need to rethread the hole bigger with a suitable thread cutting taper tap, and get an M16 x 1.5 renault sump plug, or helicoil insert it and re-use std. sump plug. [M14 X 1.5 MM Pitch, if i remember right.]

Morning, does anyone know which particular Renault's are fitted with this sump plug?

thanks

Rich