2-way fridge run from 240v by external transformer?

[kevtherev]

he already has lloyd ...but agreed

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ncluding the grille in the bottom of the van for the sink waste and any gas to fall out

[badams]

eh? do you mean the CO can vent out the bottom? sorry if I'm being dense... I figured this wouldn't be good enough and that it'd have to go straight out the side... but then CO is heavier than air, right, so should fall out? sorry, confused... how exactly do I need to vent in order not to die?

[kevtherev]

I think lloyd is thinking about if the flue gets blocked or damaged during use
then the gas will run out of the hole on the floor.

they are draughty old tubs any way.

If you feel uneasy about it then look at some van owners that have put their fridges in them selves.
or copy a converted van like Autosleeper, leisuredrive, devon (which had no grills just a flue)

[lloyd]

Not sure of this, but believe for gas burning heat source to work you need freswh air vent from below burner and exhaust vent above to put hot burnt gas out... Heat rises and all that... heat exhanger does not have to be vented outside if you want the hot air in van. In US the back of fridge is a sealed area with intake and exhaust vents and no dedicated burner vent system. Used to work on campers for a living. I know that many over here don't have this kind of venting and vent the hot air from heat exchanger inside and have dedicated burner vent.

I'm over-cautious here because I've had CO poisoning and lived... didn't think I would with the headache I had. There is no way of knowing CO is building up in space without a detector.

Others on here know more about these fridges then I do and will be along to help out.

[kevtherev]

this might help click here

[SteveW]

Let's get this straight. YOU WILL HAVE TO VENT THE EXHAUST TO THE OUTSIDE OR YOU WILL DIE.
The vents top and bottom are desirable but not essential unless it is very hot then the cooling will be affected. On most small 2 way fridges you will find that they are aprrox. 2" off of the floor and a similar gap will be at the front top of the fridge. This is for air flow over the evaporator. On bigger fridges the vents on the outside are needed to help in the cooling. I have not yet found a good quality vent with winter covers that fit a T25 only a grill type that in my opinion are next to useless keeping the weather out.

The flue MUST go to the outside. A "lazy T" will be on the top of the insulated pipe. To this will be an aluminium pipe with a plate attached that runs up at an angle to a hole through the side of the van (46mm I think) and a cover goes over the pipe to keep out unwanted visitors leaves etc.

Please get a Pro to sort out your fridge, may cost a few quid but hey what is your life worth.

[badams]

thanks again all - and SteveW - as I thought, I do need to vent the exhaust gases so thank you v much for advice. I'd already started to think about getting professional help, so will def do so now. There's no point in mucking about with it. It does strike me as a bit weird that you need Corgi registered engineers to tinker with even the simplest bits of your boiler at home but that anyone can happily fit themselves a get-dead-quick CO generator in their van! I might just have to get down to you (Hertfordshire?) if I can't find someone locally, SteveW - will look again at Gasure site. thanks, adam

[OXI]

Also rememeber that the 3 way fridge when used on 12V dc will only maintain the temperature while you're driving. (Or parked on 12 V which most converters don't allow as the 12 v is connected to the engine battery for use while driving. It disconnects when ignition switch is off)

You need to cool down on gas or 230V ac (Mains power)

The cost of running on gas is actually very small. I have a 3 way fridge and always run on gas rather than pay for mains hook-up as it's a fraction of the cost on gas.

I don't have a TV or DVD so I'm OK on leisure battery for days on end (Don't go camping to watch TV/DVD)

Hope this helps.

Frank

[badams]

thanks Frank - it's good to know that the cost is minimal - I had wondered.
and no, I don't have a TV/DVD either - what's that all about? Crazy!
cheers, adam

[lloyd]

on my last camper I would leave the fridge on 24/7 all summer long (always stocked for next trip) on a frame mounted tank. Used gas while driving instead of 12v even though it says not to. Would use up a tank in 3 months ... and that included going out camping most every weekend. Always had cold beer wherever I was!

Using the heater in cold weather could go through a tank in a few weeks!

[tonytech]

Used gas while driving instead of 12v even though it says not to.

Seem to remember a member from here getting quite badly burnt when the fridge objected to being used on gas while driving.

T

[lloyd]

Used gas while driving instead of 12v even though it says not to.

Seem to remember a member from here getting quite badly burnt when the fridge objected to being used on gas while driving.

T

Didn't say it was a good idea, or a bad idea.... but did say it says not to do it.

I really don't know how dangerous it really is to use gas fridge while driving. I would be interested in info on any fires and/or injuries caused by gas fridges being used will driving. The only thing I have seen or heard of happening is flame being blown out and thermocouple turning off gas... and I've seen that happen when parked up in high wind.

Thanks,
Lloyd