Diesel Bell Housing

Syncro 4&4 Discussion and Q&A last answered over 2 years ago.
You may also want to visit the Wiki(pedia) for a more structured index of T25 repair, maintenance, technical and ownership topics (browse for Syncro links)

You can find further syncro specific information on the Syncronauts website.

Moderators: User administrators, Moderators

Locked
syncrodoug
Registered user
Posts: 424
Joined: 10 Oct 2005, 18:51
80-90 Mem No: 1053
Location: Ross-on-Wye

Diesel Bell Housing

Post by syncrodoug »

Why do diesel bell housings have one or two 'snorkels' whereas petrol housings do not?
80-90: 1053
Syncronauts: 15
T3 Syncro DOKA (makeover nearly finished)
T4 Syncro LWB Panel Van - now departed
T3 Syncro SIKA - deciding whether it's for the chop or worth saving

User avatar
syncroandy
Trader
Posts: 1920
Joined: 18 Oct 2005, 18:15
80-90 Mem No: 851
Location: North Lancs. UK
Contact:

Post by syncroandy »

..discuss ! :lol:

I must say the diesel arrangement baffles me.
Syncrosport (taking a break as of summer 2024)
Volkswagen Transporter, reloaded.

252 GC5 EJ25 AAN L90D

andysimpson
Registered user
Posts: 213
Joined: 19 Oct 2005, 21:15
80-90 Mem No: 0
Location: Chorley, Lancs

Post by andysimpson »

My theory is the shape of the petrol engine block guarntees a good seal between engine and gearbox so there won't be air getting in so the flywheel can't pump air anywhere and suck water in.

With the shape of the diesel engine block the chances of getting a 100% seal between engine/plate/bell housing is not good, if the flywheel starts pumping air it could get a vacume and start pulling water in, by putting the breathers on they should elimianate any pressure or vacume and then the seal is not as critical.

bigbluebus
Registered user
Posts: 639
Joined: 08 Nov 2005, 12:40
80-90 Mem No: 589
Location: Preston, Lancs 'member' 589

Post by bigbluebus »

what do these look like then?
member 589, ex syncronaut 42, Stoxkarts #600

http://www.stoxkarts.co.uk/

Russel
Registered user
Posts: 269
Joined: 12 Oct 2005, 18:24
80-90 Mem No: 1052
Location: Cape Town Sunny South Africa

Post by Russel »

IF the diesle engine and box are fitted correctly with the correct parts then u will have a 100% seal between the 2.The bellhousing even has a drain plug not like the petrols permanent plug.
The petrol breather is incredably small compared to the diesle but then u wouldnt dump a petrol in the water like u would a diesle and diesles tend to be used for a more comercial market(especialy when they were made)

User avatar
Aidan
Trader
Posts: 7132
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 19:21
80-90 Mem No: 742
Location: Llanfyllin, mid Wales : )
Contact:

Post by Aidan »

I have read elsewhere that the idea is to allow the diesel clutch which is smaller than the petrol's to stay cool with an airflow through the housing, whilst keeping it from being drowned when wading, and the drain plug being the manual overide should you drown.
The petrol's effective one way flap at the bottom is to allow oil leaks out to prevent contamination of the clutch (like a landie's bellhousing plug) whilst preventing water ingress in wading situations. The breather hose on the petrol's bellhousing allows for expansion/contraction of air within the bellhousing and maintains a pressure neutral situation thus minimising water ingress in extreme temperature situations, eg hot engine/gearbox in cold water.

syncrodoug
Registered user
Posts: 424
Joined: 10 Oct 2005, 18:51
80-90 Mem No: 1053
Location: Ross-on-Wye

Post by syncrodoug »

Sorry, but it wont go away - why two? Unless it's an in and out for the air flow, but I've got a housing with just one with a plastic plug!
Another little idiosyncracy is that ETOS list two housing 091 301 071D at £371-97 and 094 301 071 at £219-22 - I suppose this may be due to different materials used for the casting, magnesium v aluminium??
Queue Clive......
80-90: 1053
Syncronauts: 15
T3 Syncro DOKA (makeover nearly finished)
T4 Syncro LWB Panel Van - now departed
T3 Syncro SIKA - deciding whether it's for the chop or worth saving

Locked