I am thinking about changing to a T2!! what do you think??
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jed the spread wrote:id rather have a t2 than a t4 anyday.
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Jed, after drivin a 2.1, the bay wood have to be porsche powered,oe leace 2 hours earlier than you used to, and you'd have to invest in a piar of these
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my workshop is located in a small yard, 2 of the other units in the yard are occupied by Aircooled T2 lads at heart we are all good mates but i normally find myself being the butt of all jokes when the air cooled and water boxer banter starts
I personally love a T2 and if i had a never ending bank balance and alot of time would look at investing, but my mate has just completed an £11k resto on his van. ouch
My van is my life sometimes and i love every minute spent with it, couldn't see myself driving anything else
I personally love a T2 and if i had a never ending bank balance and alot of time would look at investing, but my mate has just completed an £11k resto on his van. ouch
My van is my life sometimes and i love every minute spent with it, couldn't see myself driving anything else
I've had both.
I had the T2 twenty years ago and it was old rusty and slow then.
So, it would be even slower and rustier now.
Friend of mines just paid £6k for a "refurbished " T2 and I spend most weekends in the summer making it fit to use. New gas pipes, new cookers, new carb, new electrics etc etc etc. Great fun but no camping going on.
The T25 is rusty and slow too compared with anything half modern, but its a load more useable than a T2.
Thing is with a T2 though is that there is a higher likelihood of picking up someone to shag in it, so my friend tells me
I had the T2 twenty years ago and it was old rusty and slow then.
So, it would be even slower and rustier now.
Friend of mines just paid £6k for a "refurbished " T2 and I spend most weekends in the summer making it fit to use. New gas pipes, new cookers, new carb, new electrics etc etc etc. Great fun but no camping going on.
The T25 is rusty and slow too compared with anything half modern, but its a load more useable than a T2.
Thing is with a T2 though is that there is a higher likelihood of picking up someone to shag in it, so my friend tells me

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Well from my experience of bombing about in one about 10 years ago with boards strapped to the roof........
Slow, painfully on a long run down to cornwall. 3rd gear is a way of life up hills
lazzzzy handling.
rust....rust....rust...new panels that dont fit....couple of years...rust...rust
not very economical but only a bit worse than my 2.1 T25 mind you i'm now going 25mph faster
they are so cool though and have a charm that the poor old wedgie wont ever have.
it only took me about 1/2 a mile on a test drive to realise the T25 was the way ahead for me, so much easier to drive with all that torque even with the silly dogleg gearbox.
Unless you have heaps of cash the T2 will be a 'project' and i can tell you theres nothing worse than replacing panels you have welded on before because they are made of recycled Fiats & wahing machines, and they were supposed to be good ones.
Oh i forgot - HEATER - I love the heater in the T25 no more scraping the inside of the windows. Yeah yeah i replaced the excahngers and the tubes and it was still rubbish in the T2, just spare a thought for the poor souls in the back who get sod all of bugger all heat!
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Slow, painfully on a long run down to cornwall. 3rd gear is a way of life up hills

lazzzzy handling.
rust....rust....rust...new panels that dont fit....couple of years...rust...rust
not very economical but only a bit worse than my 2.1 T25 mind you i'm now going 25mph faster
they are so cool though and have a charm that the poor old wedgie wont ever have.
it only took me about 1/2 a mile on a test drive to realise the T25 was the way ahead for me, so much easier to drive with all that torque even with the silly dogleg gearbox.
Unless you have heaps of cash the T2 will be a 'project' and i can tell you theres nothing worse than replacing panels you have welded on before because they are made of recycled Fiats & wahing machines, and they were supposed to be good ones.
Oh i forgot - HEATER - I love the heater in the T25 no more scraping the inside of the windows. Yeah yeah i replaced the excahngers and the tubes and it was still rubbish in the T2, just spare a thought for the poor souls in the back who get sod all of bugger all heat!
Waffle over
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My son's got a T2: very cool & pretty to look at but so far it's cost him £5K to restore the body/engine (he's got the inside to do) & he seems to spend more time under it (or inside the engine bay) than camping in it....!
Me, I recently swapped my air-cooled T25 Westy 4-berth for a 1.9 water-cooled Holdsworth 2-berth. Modern luxury in a 22 year old bus - end kitchen, full standing headroom the whole length, hot & cold running water, colour TV, etc. - the only thing it hasn't got is an inside loo but I guess you can't have everything in 16ft!
Sonny & wife are now fed up constantly fixing their bus that after 3 years ownership they're seriously considering swapping their T2 for a T25 or maybe even a T4!
Fun & function over form anytime!!!

Me, I recently swapped my air-cooled T25 Westy 4-berth for a 1.9 water-cooled Holdsworth 2-berth. Modern luxury in a 22 year old bus - end kitchen, full standing headroom the whole length, hot & cold running water, colour TV, etc. - the only thing it hasn't got is an inside loo but I guess you can't have everything in 16ft!
Sonny & wife are now fed up constantly fixing their bus that after 3 years ownership they're seriously considering swapping their T2 for a T25 or maybe even a T4!

Fun & function over form anytime!!!

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Vanagonman wrote:Why not both? I might buy a T2 early Bay to complement my Vanagon!
that's more like it!! a Bay for local shows and looking cool and a T25 for any distance stuff. I would love a splitty for the same reasons but i wouldn't fancy hauling myself and 2 kids down to Cornwall 2 or 3 times a year in one then you have the heater issues, not to mention the cost of the things to buy in the first place, i think it all comes down to money in the end though, i'm sure if you asked on an Aircooled forum about living with either a Bay or Split then the answer would be 'no problem' its just that T25's are better because they are newer. Forgetting the reasons we all love our vans and why we choose to drive them imagine how good a T5 must be compared to our ones, there is surely no comparison when it comes to driving, stopping, comfort, reliability etc but thats not the point, if you like the feeling of 'belonging' to something you will never get that in a T5 (not for some time anyway) but in a T25 you will, although there will always be the 'purists' that will never accept us.
Basically what i'm trying to say is every generation of transporter has improved over the last so you just need to weigh up how much tinkering (and money) you want to do and trade it against how cool you want to look and feel, me i can only afford to look a little bit cool at the moment but one day you never know.
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Well, like I said....
Here is my "new-to-me" '69 Westy alongside my 1982 one.

Well put Shepster! BTW, just bought the '69 Bay yesterday. Don't my Aircooled buses look cool!!
Here is my "new-to-me" '69 Westy alongside my 1982 one.


Well put Shepster! BTW, just bought the '69 Bay yesterday. Don't my Aircooled buses look cool!!
shepster wrote:Vanagonman wrote:Why not both? I might buy a T2 early Bay to complement my Vanagon!
that's more like it!! a Bay for local shows and looking cool and a T25 for any distance stuff. I would love a splitty for the same reasons but i wouldn't fancy hauling myself and 2 kids down to Cornwall 2 or 3 times a year in one then you have the heater issues, not to mention the cost of the things to buy in the first place, i think it all comes down to money in the end though, i'm sure if you asked on an Aircooled forum about living with either a Bay or Split then the answer would be 'no problem' its just that T25's are better because they are newer. Forgetting the reasons we all love our vans and why we choose to drive them imagine how good a T5 must be compared to our ones, there is surely no comparison when it comes to driving, stopping, comfort, reliability etc but thats not the point, if you like the feeling of 'belonging' to something you will never get that in a T5 (not for some time anyway) but in a T25 you will, although there will always be the 'purists' that will never accept us.
Basically what i'm trying to say is every generation of transporter has improved over the last so you just need to weigh up how much tinkering (and money) you want to do and trade it against how cool you want to look and feel, me i can only afford to look a little bit cool at the moment but one day you never know.
was....82 Westy, 80 Mk. 3 Transporter, 69 Bay
now....66 T1 LHD 1.6 Bus
* If you need it to arrive safe & in one piece..*

now....66 T1 LHD 1.6 Bus
* If you need it to arrive safe & in one piece..*
