I.C.E. Big Amps n' Stuff ? Head Unit Needed ???????

Post by **Georgedog** » 02 Nov 2006, 13:54

Right ... For the record i know jack $' about stereogrammes in cars !

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BUT im after putting a reasonably loud [not stupid loud !] sound system in the the ole' camper. Ideally not cutting huge bass bin holes in the seat base, but would like a bit of a boom !
Dont object to a couple [4 tops' !] of holes for smallish speakers here and there, but no major holeying' ....

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Does the amplifier whatsit power ALL the speakers or just the bass

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If the amp powers all the speakers, could i totally do away with the head unit [fit an old looking radio in the hole or a bank] and just run a direct feed to the amp from my SlyPod to the amp [im assuming SlyPod acts as pre amp, and volume + type of sound would be regulated via SlyPod controls

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Post by **woody1977** » 02 Nov 2006, 14:15

hi,

i also know jack about "ice" etc

, i have been looking at this pioneer badboy for my van, it is ipod ready... + the ipod is controlled and charged thru the stereo.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... %3AIT&rd=1

Post by **Georgedog** » 02 Nov 2006, 14:19

woody... looks neat and lo price too, but im after binning the head unit and just going for pod to amp to MUZAK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Post by **woody1977** » 02 Nov 2006, 14:51

awkward git

Post by **Dubstar** » 02 Nov 2006, 15:08

Aldi's regularly sell a car stereo that does MP3, has a slot for an SD/MMC card, and also a mini usb socket on the front to plug in an MP3 player. I got mine in about January of this year for £50. A definate bargain. Obviously doesn't sound as good as a £300 Sony/Alpine, but for £50 with all them features it's something I can live with.

Post by **Georgedog** » 02 Nov 2006, 15:28

woody .... Your Not the first to say so m8 !!!!!

Post by **Georgedog** » 02 Nov 2006, 15:30

Dubstar...
Im assuming its a head type unit ?? [car stereo to me + thee !!!

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Im after binning the head ... just having the amp if poss ???????????

Post by **DiscoDave** » 02 Nov 2006, 18:31

problem with binning the head unit is that you will have very limited control over the volume, the amp will havfe a gain or level setting, which should be set at initial install and not tamperered with thereafter. say you plug your sly right in to the amp, you'll either have it really quiet or really distorted, just the nature of the beast! you would be far better getting a head unit with an aux input. hide this under the drivers seat. then get your old style stereomaphone and fit it in the dash, from it's out put, connect to the aux input, set the volume on old unit and leave it, use the new unit to adjust listening level. to listen to sly pod swap it into the aux input!

if you choose to run all the speakers via an amp then you will need at least a four channel amp. personally i would run full range speakers from the head unit and then, just put a sub on to an amp! get the best quality you can afford, as mentioned the cheaper head unit won't sound as good and a £300 sony but the louder you get the more noticable it will be!

i would also advise that where possible mount speakers in a fully sealed enclosure, a box with a bass port (a big hole) will be louder but the sound quality won't be as good, the speaker won't be as responsive and it won't last very long at loud levels.

lastly if you are going loud or long you will want to consider uprating your alternator!

in previous installs i've run jbl gear, in my oppinion it's the best and sounded great when i had 2.8kw in the boot!!

if you need any help just shout!

Post by **DiscoDave** » 02 Nov 2006, 18:32

just noticed your in west yorks, i'm in harrogate so may be able to offer more hands on help too!

Post by **leroy99** » 02 Nov 2006, 22:58

if you go for a sub get one in a ready made enclosure that has been ported (make sure it is the right specs for the sub and not a diy jobbie that the idiots in the shop are trying to flog)then you dont have to mess on with port calculations etc..look at the RMS of the sub and amp, match them up and not the max power. the rms is the constant rating where as the max power is what the unit can cope/supply for a fraction of a second (annoys me when people quote max power and not rms)have a look on the boy racer sites for set ups/wiring, it can get quite obsessive

Post by **Georgedog** » 02 Nov 2006, 23:05

Cheers Gang .. Head unit it is then ! Doh !
Thanks for the offer D-Dave will keep it in mind... Im In Leeds !

Post by **woody1977** » 03 Nov 2006, 09:25

doh

have a look at this little beauty.. my brother had one it was excellent.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JBL-Bass-Pro-II-A ... 0049995557

Post by **Arvi** » 03 Nov 2006, 14:20

i have a sony CDX m800 head unit with aux input for ipods and remote etc

have a look on google to see specs

looking for £125

pm me if interested

Post by **DiscoDave** » 03 Nov 2006, 18:54

you'll probably know of ask in kippax then! good for cheap gear. can most likely get cheap wiring kits etc

my number is in my profile if you need it!