van dead

[jpee]

1985 1.9 water cooled

Turn on ignition, all lights on dash working and bright. Click coming from fuse box area but nothing else. No engine turn over. Van started 1st turn of key and ran no problems last time used (around 3pm today)

[Grun]

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[jpee]

Thanks Grun. Had a look on wiki, didn't see that. will go try.

[Grun]

TTC,
This came from another site -


Starting Motor Trouble Checking

Symptom
Cause Remedy
Starting motor does not turn when ignition key is being turned
Switch on the lamps when testing a - Lights do not burn. Loose cables or poor ground connection. Battery run down a - Check battery cables and connections. Test voltage of battery
b - Lights go out when operating the ignition switch. Insufficient current due to loose connections or corroded terminals
b - Clean battery terminals and cable clamps, clean and tighten connections between battery starting motor and ground
c - Lights go dim when operating the ignition switch. Battery run down c - Charge battery

d - Lights stay bright when operating the ignition switch. Make a jumper contact between terminals 30 and 50 at starting motor: lf the starting motor operates, there is an open circuit in cable 50 to ignition switch, or in cable 30 to lighting switch, or the ignition switch is defective d - Eliminate open circuits, replace defective parts
e - Lights stay bright and plunger in solenoid switch is pulled when operating the starter.
Disconnect battery cable from terminal 30 at starting motor and connect it to terminal stud of connector (contact blade). If the starting motor operates, the contacts of the solenoid switch are worn or dirty
e - Replace solenoid switch



Starting motor does not operate when battery cable is directly connected with terminal stud of connector (contact) blade a - Brushes sticking

b - Brushes worn

c - Weak spring tension.
Brushes do not make contact

d - Commutator dirty

e - Commutator rough, pitted, or burned

f - Armature or Field coils defective
a - Clean brushes and guides of brush holders

b - Replace brushes

c - Replace springs


d - Clean commutator

e - Recondition starting motor

f - Overhaul starting motor

Sluggish or slow action of the starting motor a - Battery run down

b -Insufficient current flow due to loose or corroded connections

c -Brushes sticking

d - Brushes worn

e - Commutator dirty

f - Commutator rough, pitted, or burned

g - Armature or Field coils defective
a - Charge battery

b - Clean battery terminals and cable clamps, tighten connections

c - Clean brushes and guides of brush holders

d - Replace brushes

e - Clean commutator

f - Recondition starting motor

g - Overhaul starting motor

Starting motor is heard to operate, but cranks engine erratically or not at all a - Drive pinion defective

b - Flywheel gear ring defective
a - Replace drive pinion

b - Replace flywheel or re-machine gear ring

Drive pinion does not move out of mesh a - Drive pinion or armature shaft dirty or damaged

b - Solenoid switch defective
a -Overhaul starting motor


b - Replace solenoid switch.

Mike

[Rozzo]

check the little wire on the spade terminal as they get furry and stop working. even been known to drop off completely. if it looks ok get someone to turn the key to the start position and check if you have 12v on the small wire. if you dont have a meter use a bulb to check it.

[eatcustard]

I have the same problem with mine

It will fire up OK, but if I stop the engine and try to start again straigh away its dead on key, leave it a while it fires up OK


Now fixed

I wiggled some wires next to the ignition barrel and it works fine.

[clartsonly]

does it bump start?

mine once did that and a wiggle of the connectors on the starter motor fixed it. I think it was just having a hormonal day, and wasnt interested in taking us all to ikea as it knew we would be arguing the whole time.

[jpee]

The problem was simply the connection to the live battery terminal not tight enough. Had to use a small piece of lead and make a shim to get the clamp nice and tight.

[Grun]

Glad you are sorted, jpee
Thanks for letting us know the cause, one to remember for the next non starting post on this forum.

Mike