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Updated my Propex with a 7 day timer?

Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 10:23
by Cruz
Being a cheapstake (propex ones are abuot £70) are there any alternative 7 day timers that can be used with a propex? :D

Re: Alternative Propex 7 day timer?

Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 10:35
by 72BUG
You can use pretty much any thermostatic timer. It's basically just an on off switch with a timer on it so you can make pretty much anything compatible with 12v work.

Re: Alternative Propex 7 day timer?

Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 10:45
by Cruz
So something like this?

http://www.underfloorheating.co.uk/onli ... ory_id=136" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

or this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-LCD-Di ... 35b6d1239c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Alternative Propex 7 day timer?

Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 11:15
by 72BUG
I don't see why either of them wouldn't work fine.

I bought a propex from a club member for a friend of mine and it came with a timer very similar to the one in the first link. He wired it into his van no problem and it works just fine.

Re: Alternative Propex 7 day timer?

Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 12:08
by Cruz
Does the timer need to be thermostatic?

I always assumed that it's wired between the original thermostat control and the heater unit?

Would the timer in the first link replace the original propex thermostat dial unit?

Re: Alternative Propex 7 day timer?

Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 12:51
by 72BUG
As far as I'm aware yes its just a straight replacement for the original thermostatic switch. I've never seen a timer and switch wired seperately. I'm certainly no expert and can only comment on my very limited experience. But why would you want a seperate timer and thermostat? I'm sure, as with most things, it's possible but it would make more sense to just replace the thermostatic switch with a thermostatic timer.

Re: Alternative Propex 7 day timer?

Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 13:15
by Cruz
Cheers :ok

I just asked because the adverts for the propex 7 day timer say "THIS UNIT IS WIRED IN WITH THE THERMOSTAT"

Re: Alternative Propex 7 day timer?

Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 18:12
by billybigspud
most programmable thermostats now are just a couple of AA batteries which switch a set of 0v contacts. I use the Drayton ones but honeywell are just as good. They would work perfectly.

Re: Alternative Propex 7 day timer?

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 20:16
by Cruz
The thing is the propex HS2000 has the following wires

+ Red
- Black
On - Orange
LED - White
Vent - Green

Not sure how the last 3 wires affect the hearter so I wouldn't know how to wire in a programmable thermostat anyway :lol:

Maybe that's why the propex timer is fitted inbetween the heater and the original dial thermostat so that the cold fan still works as does the led (which I assume also tell of any faults?)

http://www.propexheatsource.co.uk/pdf/H ... ssue_2.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Propex 7 day timer?

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 23:20
by Cruz
Has anyone got the genuine propex 7 day timer fitted?

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Does the thermostat wheel switch need to be left on permanently with this timer?

Re: Alternative Propex 7 day timer?

Posted: 16 Feb 2012, 14:34
by Cruz
billybigspud wrote:most programmable thermostats now are just a couple of AA batteries which switch a set of 0v contacts. I use the Drayton ones but honeywell are just as good. They would work perfectly.
I've seen this

http://www.heatingcontrolsonline.co.uk/ ... p-436.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As I need to keep the propex thermostat/control switch wired in (as it's the diagnostic box too) I assume I'd just fit this to the red + wire before the propex thermostat/control box?

Re: Propex with a 7 day timer?

Posted: 16 Feb 2012, 15:01
by Titus A Duxass
I've got this http://www.ebay.de/itm/12V-DIGITALE-ZEI ... 27b921cbd9 in between the Propex thermostat and the Propex.
The only downside is that it switches off without letting the Propex do it's cool down period.

Re: Propex with a 7 day timer?

Posted: 17 Feb 2012, 20:52
by Cruz
Is that not good cutting off the cooling down period?

I thought it would wire in before the propex thermostat otherwise there would be power to the thermostat all the time (ie left switched in the on position)

Re: Propex with a 7 day timer?

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 13:51
by Cruz
Here is the wiring diagram that Propex sent me showing the 7 day timer (TM823) and the original dial type termostat switch (GHT214)

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Re: Updating Propex with a 7 day timer?

Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 19:01
by Cruz
I've come up with an fairly cheap alternative (£20) to the Propex 7 day timer that costs £70+

I think it will work

I'm going to wire in a battery powered Tower Eco ET2 programmable thermostat so that I can accurately set the temperature in the van rather than use the current ad-hoc dial thermostat that came with the heater

The Eco ET2 thermostat is available for just less than £20 delivered

http://www.heatingcontrolsonline.co.uk/ ... p-436.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and here's the user manual

http://www.heatingcontrolsonline.co.uk/ ... ns/ET2.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;