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Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 16:15
by Rogue Trooper
Have I just bought the wrong ones or have I missed something!!

The Lower ball joint hole is way bigger than the new ball joint so just pushes through,!

Its fighting me all the way!!!

Your help is appreciated

Confused of Amesbury!

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 17:13
by Aidan
a picture of said item and info on where purchased etc.. might help

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 17:38
by syncrosimon
Should look like this on a late arm
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It is a hammer in job though without a doubt.
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And should have a retaining ring like this.
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Simon.

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 17:40
by Rogue Trooper
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Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 17:57
by syncrosimon
Is that ball joint is pressed into the lower control arm?

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 17:59
by ..lee..
what have you done with the old ball joint. you may get a clue by haveing a good look at it.

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 18:01
by syncrosimon
The Nut goes on the outer edge of the upright.
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Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 18:03
by ..lee..
think he`s got the collar missing.......

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 18:11
by Russel
You have probably been supplied with a ball joint off a bay window. They are slightly smaller in diameter.
Russel

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 18:20
by toomanytoys
there is an "insert/adapter" that sits in the hub carrier.. that the ball joint passes through.... must be left on the old balljoint... IIRC these insert/adapter are not cheap from VW...

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 18:59
by Rogue Trooper
Thanks all, I'm sure they are the right ones. The old one has gone as it was FUBAR

I'm taking the other side off tomorrow to compare!

Maybe the collar was on the old one so that's screwed it up!!

How much are they from VW.....GULP!

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 19:18
by Rogue Trooper
They are 251 407 187 from Just Kampers (manufactured by topran), Bought these ages ago.....now all of my parts come from BrickWerks

Bentley does not list them hence why I missed them!

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 20:42
by Simon Baxter
Topran is a budget brand.

We've had thr problem a couple of times where even lemforder ones are a poor fit.
Its always the later cast arm.
Fear not as we have some oversize ball joints for this very problem.
I don't think they are on the webahop though. If you want some drop is a mail.

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 09:09
by Aidan
I have the inserts for syncro uprights in stock

Re: Lower Ball joints

Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 16:44
by Rogue Trooper
Aidan,

Will be giving you a ring tomorrow if that's OK?

Thanks