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suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 20:10
by lughole
...exactly that, i want my syncro to have better clearance and harder ride.
ive seen the springs and dampers on busman and berndjager, does anyone eles know of other places, brands, vendors to pick something nice up?
and any other advice to do with this is more than welcome...
ta,
Joe
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 20:17
by Simon Baxter
HD 2WD front springs cheapest option.
Or buy some of my coil overs...
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 21:18
by syncropaddy
Harder Ride ..... why?
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 21:35
by lughole
syncropaddy wrote:Harder Ride ..... why?
thought it might help when carrying heavy loads, which i do alot...
often on very windy sites /areas, thought it might cope better when im getting battered.
also i find when im in forests i bounce all over the shop.
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 01:19
by ericos_bob
I have these for my syncro
http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details. ... parent_id=
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 04:52
by syncrowjoker
Ive got the same set up with Old Man Emu shocks,no complaints other than the hole left in my pocket
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 08:57
by keeno
You can either fit spacers or Baxter's adjustable AVOs, which are lovely bits of kit. Introducing a spacer or moving the spring platform upwards will give you a noticeably harder ride noticeable for the first few inches of suspension travel. The beauty of adjustable platforms is you can dial in your exact desired height with ease. Before I get flamed, spring pressure increases the more a spring gets compressed, almost right to the point of coilbind. So if you introduce a spacer the spring compresses more, increasing the spring's poundage rating at that given suspension point. So, whether you fit spacers or adjustable platform shocks, your ride will feel firmer than before.
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 18:08
by KarlT
Errrrr, are you sure that's right?
If you have a compressing force of one ton, a spring will compress by a set about.
If you then add a 20mm spacer & have a compressing force of one ton, the spring will compress the same amount But your bus will sit 20mm higher because of the spacer.
The spring won't compress anymore as the wieght is the same. Simples!
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 19:06
by lughole
so karl... what suspension would you advise for this squeaky bus of mine?!!
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 19:24
by keeno
Take a valve spring for instance. At installed height of 1.6 inches it may be putting out 140 odd lbs of pressure. Compress the same spring by half an inch to 1.1 inches installed height and the force goes up to around 280 lbs at that installed height. Vehicle springs work on the same principle.
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 19:34
by lughole
when im changing the shocks and springs, are there any bushes that are easier to change when the suspension is off OR any other jobs i should be considering when doing so?
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 19:44
by KarlT
lughole wrote:so karl... what suspension would you advise for this squeaky bus of mine?!!
Don't overload that classic vehicle!!
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 20:06
by ..lee..
baxters front and rear avo`s and if its heavy siekel springs. i haven`t got the seikels as cash is not plentyfull atm but the avo`s are very good. fronts are adjustable for height so you can go as high as you need with them and spacers for the rear.
the beauty with the avo`s is that you can turn the van from super comfy to very firm and sporty in 2 minutes. its like having 2 vans.
lee.
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 20:12
by lughole
the avo's it is then, whats about springs people?
Re: suspension, higher & harder ride sought.
Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 20:32
by ..lee..
baxter does new syncro springs i`m sure they will be a big improvement on the old springs you have. heavyduty 2wd springs will give a lift on a std platform strut but their not required with the avo`s as they can be adjusted for height aswell as damping.
as i mentioned before seikel springs are very well regarded and will be firmer " some say too firm " especially on a lightweight syncro.
henning as trailmaster springs listed which are progressive " best of both worlds " but i`ve not heard any reports on them yet.
bear in mind you will loose articulation off road with stiff suspension. ok if you have 2 diff locks.
i think axeman on here as seikel springs and i think russel uses them also.
lee.