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Engine movement???

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 08:23
by ropeman23
Since I've had my 2.1 Carravelle the engine has always felt like the mounts needed doing. I get a kind of shunting from the rear end and I can feel movement through the gearstick. I bought four new engine mounts from brickwerks and a new gearbox mount (gearbox mount cost a foutune!). Since fitting the new mounts the shunting / juddering is slightly better, but not a lot and I can still feel movement through the gearstick.

I checked yesterday and I can rock the engine by hand!?? Surely I shouldn't be able to do that?? Any ideas.

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 08:25
by jamesc76
they do move alot! Mine's no longer vw and moves very little, but when you watch vw ones they do move the exhaust a really good amout!!

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 08:40
by ropeman23
jamesc76 wrote:they do move alot! Mine's no longer vw and moves very little, but when you watch vw ones they do move the exhaust a really good amout!!

What the engine or the mounts? Do you know if you can get polly mounts? I'm really down on the driving experiance at the moment.

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 09:17
by kevtherev
If you can rock the engine more than an inch the mounts need changing.
They are available from brickwerks or GSF

removal of the carrier bar is best for ease of fitting

so the engine would have to be supported with a stable jack

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 09:27
by ropeman23
kevtherev wrote:If you can rock the engine more than an inch the mounts need changing.
They are available from brickwerks or GSF

removal of the carrier bar is best for ease of fitting

so the engine would have to be supported with a stable jack


All brand new from brickwerks, less than 500 miles ago!

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 09:40
by Mocki
kevtherev wrote:If you can rock the engine more than an inch the mounts need changing.
They are available from brickwerks or GSF

removal of the carrier bar is best for ease of fitting

so the engine would have to be supported with a stable jack

do try and read the post all the way down Kev! lol

if you have replaced all the mounts and its still doing it, something else must be loose.....
when does it do this "juddering", are you sure its not clutch judder?

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 09:55
by kevtherev
oops.. sorry :D :D

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 10:27
by ropeman23
I'll double check the tightness of the rear mounts today, I had those done by my garage as I didn't have time. Gearbox I know is fine I changed that myself a couple of weeks ago.

Pretty sure it's not clutch judder?? Any good tests?

I can rock the engine by hand quite a bit.

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 28 Jun 2010, 20:15
by ropeman23
Right I can see quite a bit of movement on the engine mounts. I can rock the engine about an inch in either direction. All the bolts are one up tight. Could I have a duff set?

I got my brother to drive the van yesterday, and with me in the back looking into the engine bay the engine moves / rocks between gear change (front to back) This must be what I'm feeling through the gear stick. I know an engine should have some movement, but it's unplesant to drive at the mo and I'm worried about the amount of clutch slipping I'm doing to make the drive more comfy.

Anyone know of ay poly mounts available?

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 28 Jun 2010, 21:46
by kevtherev
have you looked at the gearbox mount?

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 00:01
by CovKid
Naughty Kev - you've been told off for once already for not reading - read the post again - he has a new gearbox mount. :D

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 07:17
by Aidan
what was the drain plug on the gearbox like when you changed the oil ?

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 10:59
by ropeman23
Aidan wrote:what was the drain plug on the gearbox like when you changed the oil ?

Small not magnetic, should it be? I still have the oil so I could put it through a sive....... Don't tell me there's some possible horror just round the corner.

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 11:11
by CovKid
No, Aidan just likes to frighten you :rofl

Seriously though, I think he's trying to ascertain if the box itself is causing so much movement.

My engine doesn't rock much: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8bvi6VuJS0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Engine movement???

Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 11:15
by ropeman23
Damn! Frightening is usualy my trick

Just been for a bit of a crawl under the van and have noticed a small oil leak around the area where the box mates to the engine. Maybe related?