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ENGINE HEATERS?

Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 07:50
by steve o
HI
is their any type of engine pre heater?
let me explain,
MY 1.6 deisel van lives outside, in cold area by river ,so cold and damp,in the mornings,
just wonderd if their anything like a warm air type heater that i could use for 5 mins befor i use start the van? something that could be plumbed in,
say run of a second battery?
any ideas, many thanks
steve.o

Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 08:44
by ringo
Maybe try an eberspacher? The one that plumbs in to the coolant system.

Made for the job. Possibly expensive though. Everything else eberspacher is expensive!

Ringo

Re: ENGINE HEATERS?

Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 08:52
by Mr Bean
steve o wrote:HI
is their any type of engine pre heater?
let me explain,
MY 1.6 deisel van lives outside, in cold area by river ,so cold and damp,in the mornings,
just wonderd if their anything like a warm air type heater that i could use for 5 mins befor i use start the van? something that could be plumbed in,
say run of a second battery?
any ideas, many thanks
steve.o

The most efficient heater for your purpose apart from gas or oil powered engine water circulating heater is your engine itself. Batteries are next to hopeless for heating purposes and to put out say 3KW (equivilent to a domestic fan heater) would need to pump out 3000/12 = 250A which is what your starter motor can draw in a cold day. I hate to have to say this but the solution to your problem given that your engine is in good nick and your battery,starter & thrmostat are good, is to get your bum out there five minutes early and get it running. When I do this I put a lock and chain around my steering wheel/gear lever soas to prevent scrotization. (Not that they exist before lunch time) A good idea for the cab area is a thermal blanket type thing which can be draped over and secured with a couple of aerolastcs. At least you won't have to do all that scraping.
Cheers
Smiffy (Brrrrr....)

Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 18:36
by Plasticman
Hey Smiffy you spelt it wrong, , scroteysation, and dont kid yourself the low-life's can be up and about if they are returning from a nocturnal foray! or they have an early sign on slot at the job centre
Mike :D :twisted:

Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 18:48
by toomanytoys
Fit a webasto water system heater. CJ at syncro spares may well have a good one as a lot of European and swedish vans were fitted with them.. I have one on my Syncro DOkA and in about 10 mins it has defrosted and warmed everything up real toasty.....

Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 18:57
by Mocki
ebberspacher D5, cheap as chips, scrappy may have one, they are fitted to VW Sharon and whatever fjord call thier version, so should be loads of them to look through.......

Re: ENGINE HEATERS?

Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 22:24
by campervanman
Fitted to diesel Freelanders I seem to remember - the ealier models.

Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 00:48
by Rozzo
as ringo said,, lookout on fleabay for an eberspacher hydronic. they're designed to be spliced into the engine water system and warm the engine on a timer. saves loads of engine wear too :wink:

Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 07:21
by lloyd
Have used heaters similar to 4 and 5 in this link:
http://www.calix.se/consumer/index.asp? ... lAodFSBF3Q
worked well to -40... never tried colder then that. :lol:

heaters

Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 08:13
by steve o
HI
thanks ,last link had some good / usefull bits, but no u.k outlet,
could,nt find any prices in their catalogue ,
thanks
steve.o

Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 08:46
by Mr Bean
metalmick8y wrote:Hey Smiffy you spelt it wrong, , scroteysation, and dont kid yourself the low-life's can be up and about if they are returning from a nocturnal foray! or they have an early sign on slot at the job centre
Mike :D :twisted:

Takes one to know one! :P :wink:

Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 18:45
by lloyd
I couldn't find anyone selling anything like them here either. Sorry. :cry:

Eberspacher heaters.

Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 12:36
by steve o
Hi
whats the differance between D 1 / D2 and the other eberspacher heaters? D1 D2 seem to be cheaper are they as good as rest?
thanks steve.o

Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 12:46
by Mocki
D1 is a air heater
the water heater you were looking at would be a D5 iirc

Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 13:28
by ermie571
Rozzo wrote:as ringo said,, lookout on fleabay for an eberspacher hydronic. they're designed to be spliced into the engine water system and warm the engine on a timer. saves loads of engine wear too :wink:

ok mr air man - how you know this stuff??

does it really reduce engine wear?
How do you splice it into the water system? Do you mean that water from the engine goes through the heater....or via some sort of heat exhanger? If it is the latter, how do you circulate the engine water without running the engine?
So many questions....

Em