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Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 18:53
by R0B
Has anyone fitted this kit?
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 21:29
by Stesaw
I'd like to if I get the cash together
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 00:22
by Smiffo
I was seriously considering it last year.
If we can get a few people up together to get a deal on multiple kits ( i.e. price reduction, or maybe not send the 3 groove pulley ) then I would be back in the market for one.
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 07:46
by TwinTurbo
what's the "drive" to do it though?
Economy?
Performance?
Reliability?
Parts Availability?
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 09:16
by R0B
Its fuel economy with me. I believe with this kit the MPG is significantly improved. The reason I asked if anyone had fitted it was to find out just how much of a difference it had made.
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 09:59
by Smiffo
R0B wrote:Its fuel economy with me. I believe with this kit the MPG is significantly improved. The reason I asked if anyone had fitted it was to find out just how much of a difference it had made.
Exactly that for me too.
I had bought all the DJ digijet components to install that, but the wiring harnesses are in bad shape - this project seemed like the next best thing ( if not better )
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Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 10:13
by TwinTurbo
How many miles do you do a year?
if you did a minimum of 10,000 miles a year it would take about 3 1/2 years to recoup the expenditure of item + delivery based on a 25% increas in economy 20 - 25 mpg. That excludes any professional fitting ~( if you go that route ).
Cheers
Rob
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 10:48
by silverbullet
From what I have read, mapped ignition such as Aldon Amythest piggybacked onto the stock efi gives the biggest gains for the least expense. Still requires setting up on a rolling road.
Sequential efi vs batch fire (digijet, digifant and motronic equivalents) gives much smaller gains for considerably bigger outlay and it also requires rolling road otimisation.
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 10:52
by silverbullet
PS no engine management swap is going to deliver a 25% increase in mpg, even on a box fresh rebuild. 10% might be a more realistic expectation.
However, it might bring reliability and driveability gains especially if your Digi system is temperamental. But a few years down the road, what about spare parts? Because sensors fail and without them its limp mode or no start.
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 10:56
by silverbullet
PPS to make the most of modern fuel and mapped ignition or full engine management, the engine needs to have a minimum of 10:1 static compression ratio, all VAG shopping 8v efi engines are around 10.3:1 SCR so unless you have a really good DJ its not worth the cash or hassle.
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 11:01
by TwinTurbo
I was being as optemistic as possible with 25% 20mpg up to 25mpg. and would probably bee seen as an improvement of better drivability making a wider avrage increase. But as you say, to get best improvements your goign rolling roading and that's more money on top
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 11:04
by TwinTurbo
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Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 11:50
by R0B
Can you put an auto on a rolling road?
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 12:04
by TwinTurbo
I can't think why not?
Re: Marco Mansi EFI kit
Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 13:49
by silverbullet
Might not get accurate peak output figures though because the wind-down is used to work out the transmission losses, but otherwise its got two driven wheels on the rollers and the man squeezes the pedal.