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Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 16:40
by MyBlueT25
I have a 81 tintop with a v6 essex and struggling to get it started, ive replaced pretty much everything to do with spark and fuel except the ingnition control module which ive attached a link to a photo, I cant find a direct replacement, are they all the same as long as i get one for 6 cylinders?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11a2mPg ... sp=sharing

Cheers for your help :)

Re: Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 16:50
by Mocki
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That is not a VW part , maybe you need to be on a ford forum?

Re: Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 17:20
by MyBlueT25
thanks steve, yeah i thought id post here first as it could have been part of the vw wiring loom, so its 100% not a VW part then?

Re: Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 17:40
by TwinTurbo
Don't think it will be dependnat on Cylinder Number , all it is is an ignition amp reciving a pulse from the Hall or opto sensor and then choppign the coil. 

Can you induce a spark manauly by tappig the coil?

It may be difficult to find one, you may be better either converting back to Points or Going to something new from Burton. 

Rob 

 

Re: Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 18:13
by TwinTurbo
Is this a match?

https://www.123spareparts.co.uk/car-par ... /p-7960256

Are you sure it's an Essex engine and not a collogne? I ask Because the essex was probably pre electronic ignition.

Re: Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 19:46
by tobydog
The insulation on the cables looks a bit past it.

Re: Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 19:51
by davidoft1
probably worth cross references the distributor part number to find the appropriate module 
 

Re: Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 19:52
by davidoft1

Re: Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 19:54
by davidoft1

Re: Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 20:02
by davidoft1
this looks to be the correct wiring diagram 

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Re: Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 21:21
by MyBlueT25
davidoft1 wrote: 25 Nov 2024, 19:54 Ignition Module Fits Ford Orion Mk2 1.3 83 to 88 JPA CI 6109051 83bb12a199b3a for sale online | eBay

this too


have you checked your signals to the module?

great thanks! ill check the signals tomorrow.

yeah i agree the insulation has gone, i dont think this has been changed since 1981 and so it must be electronic from new, it also has a balast which was confusing as to whether this was needed with the new coil i bought from accuspark

sorry for my ignorance im not a mechanic, im just trying to wing it because all the garages around here have given up on this brick

ive got a spark but it fades on turning over so thought it might be the module.  when i did get it started it once it felt like it was just firing on three cylinders

Re: Help on a Essex V6

Posted: 25 Nov 2024, 21:30
by TwinTurbo
its years since I have looked but the ford TFI stuff is relqativly uninversal. even the lightly more advanced units that get a "SAW" signal from the ECU would produce a spark if the SAW was not present. This is much earlier design and just a basic ignition amp.

Check the distributor is correctly earthed as the last essex I worked on had poor earth ( among other issues after being dormant for 30 years...)