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Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 19:10
by ScienceBoy
So I'm waiting for a third issue as this is my recent second.

Starter doesn't run each time I turn Harry over. I hear the solenoid. I hear my fuel pump. But the motor does not turn. Sometimes it turns on the second attempt, or the third. Once I had to give it a clout and then it worked.

Sounds like it's replacement time. Any suggestions or comments?

Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 19:19
by tonytech
I assume you mean "starter doesnt turn"
Have you checked/ cleaned the contacts on the starter?
A dirty spade connector or grubby earth can cause problems.
Use the search. lots of people have had similar problems and solved it with varying methods from renewing the spade connector to striping the starter motor and cleaning the contacts.

T

Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 21:44
by ScienceBoy
Yep.
Did that.
Not contacts.

Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 10:12
by CovKid
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Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 18:27
by ScienceBoy
Cheers ck. think I might just get one to replace rather than jiggery pokery. Find I don't have enough time for that these days

Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 19:11
by CovKid
Just be sure it is the starter and not the condition of the wiring otherwise you could end up throwing money at it without actually nailing the problem: https://club8090.co.uk/wiki/VW ... ain_cables" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 22:26
by ScienceBoy
Nice article!
Sometimes it starts first time. Sometimes it takes a couple of tries with the ignition key. Would you expect a random pattern with cable corrosion, but that it always works eventually (thus far)? I would have thought something inside more likely such as carbon build up, wear etc.

Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 23:37
by randamonia
My experience with similar symptoms.

https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=144405" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 23:18
by ScienceBoy
Cheers guys

Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 23:28
by Ian Hulley
Check the signal wire 6mm spade terminal and more importantly the wiring to it. Common to find them heavily corroded and high resistance.

Ian.

Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 13 Aug 2015, 08:07
by CovKid
You can also get random response through a failing ignition switch but if you've replaced it, it'll be wiring to or within starter.

Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 14 Aug 2015, 22:15
by ScienceBoy
Seems my alternator wire goes to the in the JB as per your article ck. my wife is pushing for me to hand the job to a garage. Apparently she wants to see more of me!!!

Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 15 Aug 2015, 11:59
by Ian Hulley
It's only checking a wire and a terminal ....

Ian

Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 16 Aug 2015, 18:35
by ScienceBoy
Ian. I believe that's ok as I've piggybacked the initial freed to my electric fuel pump off that, and when the starter isn't turning I can still hear the pump. I can also hear the solenoid. The terminal looks ok.

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Re: Starter motor playing up on 1.9 DG

Posted: 16 Aug 2015, 18:37
by Ian Hulley
ScienceBoy wrote: I can also hear the solenoid. The terminal looks ok.

Have you checked/seen the starter bush in the bellhousing ?

Ian