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2.1 dj, warm starting

Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:13
by matt
right
2.1 dj

starts 1st go when stone cold

starts 1st go when at running temp

anything in between, no chance !!!!!!

any ideas ?

Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:20
by Hacksawbob
mud in the carb :lol:

Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:24
by tonytech
OK.
A bit more info please.
Does it crank?
Does the engine turn over at normal speed?
Does the engine splutter?

I'd be thinking either a temp sender fault or air leak after air flow meter.

Pull a plug after a failed start and see if it is wet with fuel.


T

Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:25
by tonytech
DJ=Fuel injected.
T

Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:33
by matt
normal. ie engine turns over, buty struggles to fire

if i keep my foot to the floor, hard, she goes eventully

deffo no leak after air flow meter.....

if the temp sender near the thermostat housing ?

or am i lost ?

Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:39
by T'Onion
Matt is the timing set right ...
are all the vacpipes in good condition
quick check start it up and put the pipe of the dizzy the revs should drop

Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:47
by matt
mmmmm

all pipes good, well good in a matt way

tis timed up

will check pullin pipes off tomoz....but seems temp related

Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 22:17
by Aidan
DJ should need no peddle to start, so you need to check the temp senders when it's in fault condition and the afm outputs too......

Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 22:46
by HarryMann
Yes, critical temp sender for start idel is that one behind the the thermostat, and its wiring (fractured - redo the whole thing into isu unit or wherever the hell it goes, long time no DJ) MIne was dodgy about 4" out of temp sender.

Posted: 28 Nov 2005, 07:46
by matt
cheers guys

i hate winter, leave for werk in the dark, come home in the dark

Posted: 29 Nov 2005, 08:01
by T'Onion
any luck Matt ?

Posted: 29 Nov 2005, 10:15
by Diamond Hell
Give him a chance - this IS Matt..... replace gas struts on tailgate? yes. Replace plug leads (that are so old they've locked into the curves around the engine bay.... whoah there, let's not rush into this!!

You HAVE done that last one, haven't you?!

Posted: 29 Nov 2005, 14:58
by matt
a mates just texted with the news that hes got a sensor from scrappers....

kinda changed the HT lead.....in the way that i attempted to, only to find that dg ones are differant to dj's..... :shock:

i blame jen

Posted: 01 Dec 2005, 00:40
by catmangler
Be careful stripping back the temp sensor wiring... I never DID find th eother end. Replaced about a foot and a half, 1/4" at a time, as the old one just kept falling apart!

It DOES sound like the temp sender is going open circuit, and causing the injection to go full rich.

TTG

Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 12:58
by matt
right, with a bit a luck, t'onion was spot on

vac ad. on old dizzy not werking
replaced dizzy, re timed, starts on turn of key when hot
mis fire gone

not tryed when semi warm yet

fingers crossed