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Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 12:28
by cleagarr
The ebay link is here:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-DIESEL-HE ... 971627959?

I emailed the guy and he said he would include a timer and thermostat and offer free delivery for this price.

Does anybody have any experience with these?

I have an eberspacher D2 Airtronic (with stat and timer) that I am going to take out because I don't like the set up - the fuel is in a jerry can and my misses is petrified of it (I know, I know). If anyone is interested in mine let me know via pm.

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 13:19
by fairwynds
I dont, but it looks the part. It does have a massive heat output compared to the usual suspects, and Id wonder about battery drain?
As you said, would be interesting to see one 'in the flesh' so to speak..

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 14:16
by AdrianC
cleagarr wrote:I have an eberspacher D2 Airtronic (with stat and timer) that I am going to take out because I don't like the set up - the fuel is in a jerry can and my misses is petrified of it (I know, I know).

Is your van diesel or petrol?

If it's diesel, why not just plumb the eber into the fuel tank? That's got a separate cheesy-looking tank, so is really not that different to your current Eber.
If your van's petrol, why not just get a petrol heater instead of another diesel?

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 14:29
by Oldiebut goodie
https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=112684

As said - run it off the vehicles fuel tank unless you are using veg oil in a diesel.

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 15:30
by ghost123uk
cleagarr wrote:The ebay link is here:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-DIESEL-HE ... 971627959?

Am I reading the spec correctly, that says 70 Watts from the battery on 12 volts, that is nearly 6 amps :shock:

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 15:44
by AdrianC
ghost123uk wrote:
cleagarr wrote:The ebay link is here:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-DIESEL-HE ... 0971627959

Am I reading the spec correctly, that says 70 Watts from the battery on 12 volts, that is nearly 6 amps :shock:

Probably on first startup, when the glow plug's trying to fire it from cold. The Westy original Eber B2L/D2L apparently takes 150w (petrol), 240w (diesel) maximum on startup - but then drops down to 15w in use.
http://www.westfaliat3.info/eberB2L-D2L.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 17:06
by Oldiebut goodie
That is normal running consumption - it drops to 50w on half heat.
As I said before 4.6/2.8Kw is a bit of overkill in a small van and then you have its enormous dimensions!

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 17:17
by AdrianC
Oldiebut goodie wrote:That is normal running consumption - it drops to 50w on half heat.

Yikes! So what's the initial draw?

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 17:32
by Oldiebut goodie
Much as the older Webastos/Eberspachers I should think. I reckon they are Chinese clones of the old Webastos/Eberspachers like the Eberspacher D7L. I would expect the initial draw to be in the region of 10 - 12A.
The company was set up 07 Nov 2012 - not a long pedigree!
Some more info:

Arif Ayyub is currently 37 years old and first became a director 17 years ago at the age of 20. His most recent non-secretarial directorship is with Airstream Heaters Ltd where he holds the position of "Retailer".

Doesn't send out a healthy message when you look at his other directorships - his main income was derived from a newsagents! There are two dissolved companies and four current directorships held by him.
I would stay away personally. :)

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 18:04
by lloydy
You could buy a D1LC with all the exhaust/&inlet pipes and a stat for around that, or cheaper..
Won't be new, but I'd trust it more

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 18:24
by Oldiebut goodie
He already has a better heater - Airtronic D2!

The easiest solution would be to strap a small tank underneath if you are using dissimilar fuels.
Without that crucial info. we are stabbing in the dark as usual! :lol:

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 18:30
by lloydy
Must......read........full.....post..... :lol:

Ian hulley has a great set up for a aux tank for a heater on different fuel to engine

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 18:39
by Oldiebut goodie
His is behind the front grill isn't it? I seem to remember something about it.

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 18:43
by lloydy
In the D pillar, I think it's filled through the air vent

Re: Heater - Does anybody have one of these?

Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 20:53
by cleagarr
It does sound a bit dodgy doesn't it?

She's a petrol van so can't tap into the tank. I think one of the problems with the setup is that the fuel leaks a bit through the screw cap (not sure whether through the lid/neck of the tank or where the fuel pipe comes out of it). As a result she smells a bit like a BR train.

I've been trying to fire the heater up all afternoon and am greeted with the F52 message - the same as I was getting a few weeks ago! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrg

Would someone mind looking at the pictures on the link below and giving some views on it - does it look safe (to reassure the misses), does it look like it will be effective at delivering the fuel properly?

http://s1258.beta.photobucket.com/user/ ... berspacher

Thanks for the responses.