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Guys i currently have a 2E fitted into my Whitestar, was after some advice on tuning the engine vs a engine swap.. A logical route would be to swap the Cylnder Head port/polished if budget allows bigger valves with a slight high lift cam (nothing too mental) Newmans 268.. Cant find much info on this for a t25 plenty of advice for a Golf
Also look at gearbox ratio as gap between 3rd to 4th seems to long!!
Or swap for a 1.8t but this route seems to be the expensive route?

Hi Gaz, is the 2e an 8 valve gti type engine?
If it is I've got a hardly used piper 270 cam and set of hydraulic lifters (done about 500 miles) that you could buy at handy money. The cam was a new one not a regrind. P.M. me if interested.

Hey Kermit, yes it is 8v gti, just looking at options at present. Did you have your piper cam fitted to your Van, what sort of gains did you get?

It was fitted in a mk2 scirocco so slightly different power to weight characteristics. It gave good all round improvements, not a peaky cam so should be good for your purpose.

Buy and fit the 270!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO IT!

I fitted a Newman 268 in my T3 gti conversion and it REALLY woke the engine up.

Bags of low end torque, didnt affect idle , nice and smooth. As long as you stay below 274 ish you'll be fine.

DO IT DO IT DO IT! Can not enthuse how much this simple/cheap upgrade changed the engine - best mod per £ ive ever done.

Did i mention it really woke engine up and added at least 150 bhp and made me more attractive to girls?*




*might be an exaggeration

Elvis is right.
I was single and lonely before I fitted the cam but once installed and correctly timed I was beating women off with a s***ty stick. It also improved the engine.

So to recap just upgrade the Cam 268/270 dont worry about cylnder head, and i will never sleep alone again?

Yes that's an accurate assessment. If only geeky teenage boys knew about the Piper/Newman effect, they wouldn't waste so much of their spare money on Lynx, they would have a faster Saxo and a string of attractive, horny girls to pander to their every whim.

I spent quite some time researching it and all the options. You COULD do the cylinder head but for what? You want low/mid range torque not big BHP (although yes there is a correlation) so dont bother with big valaves IMHO, You could spend £500 on a QUALITY head job *snigger* but its the old law of diminishing returns. Secondhand cam is £100. A £500 head wont give 5 times the increase in performance/power/bhp/torque/smiles. A £100 head job will probably see you with a knackered head.

Bung in a cam around 270/272 and you'll be grinning like the proverbial jap.

Have a nosey on clubgti.com in the 8v section, plenty of knowledgeable bods and plenty of threads/facts/figues

And when i fitted my cam i was beating the blurt off with a big stick!

Elvis,
from your experience with the 270 cam, does it deliver the extra power in a way that can be beneficial on fuel consumption? That is, driven sensibly/gently, could one expect see a few more miles per gallon?

Does the same cam fit the AGG engine as well?

cheers

Garyd

L o chap!

The Hydraulic mk2 cam will fit all Mk2/3s PB/2E/AGG. Think only difference is later ones(head) obviously had extra cam cap.

Was talking about this today funnily enough and i still maintain IMHO that is one of the best £/bang upgrades i have ever done. DEFFO does what it says on the box and bags more torque low/mid.Just stay sensible - around 270 , can spend ages comparing them all for what has best lift , IIRC the Newman ones are alledgedly Schrick copies which is meant to be one of the best profiles about.

I cant' honestly say that i did a before/after MPG comparison but i dont think it had any noticeable effect, possibly for first few weeks like any mod, you will be spanking it a little bit with a cheeky grin BUT even if there was a decrease (1) It would be marginal (2) the benefits gained (especially in a syncro) would IMHo far outweigh the rise in consumption.

Ere..I have a camshaft ligging at my mums out of a PB or maybe a EV....it's a TSR one from when they were a worthy company...I will sell...

Kermit'skeeper wrote:Elvis is right.
I was single and lonely before I fitted the cam but once installed and correctly timed I was beating women off with a s***ty stick. It also improved the engine.

If only this was the brickyard...I could re phrase that statement for you in such a sordid manner...shame...

Holy Fred Resurrection Batman!

Just a quick question - I want to fit a Schrick 270 cam but can only find them new - are they worth lashing out 250€ for?

Cheers
TAD