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On the clutch problem, I wonder if due to the thickness of the adaptor plate the slave cylinder has run out of travel ? Easily checked by measuring the overall lenth of the slave and push rod before and after fitting.
I know someone spoke of welding 2 thrust bearings together on a DIY conversion to get round this !
It could be possible to get round it by extending the push rod, but not if the release shaft has already turned too far to work effectivly ?
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The thing is, Neil's works OK and the only part that caught him out was the crank spigot bearing 'cos his donor motor was an auto.

Unless Tom had managed to inadvertantly fit a WBX petrol bellhousing with a knackered fork? My Subaru conversion clutch was always really low i.e. on the floor, carpet-mashing low. It was only the trans rebuild by Aidan that showed it up.

It's a pity but maybe this wasn't the ideal vehicle for a B230 swap, with hindsight. For the benefit of the nay-sayers: we're all grown-ups and nobody forced anyone to do anything.
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Thanks for your comments and advise.

I have good news to report. The camper has been taken away today by A.C Services (North Newton somerset). A colleague from work helped me out. After making contact and explaining the conversion story trail and tribulations to date. Andy (A.C) did not like the idea of me giving up on the project.

I have explained the problems with the clutch and extending the pushrod was mentioned (Thanks Richard)..The pleasing thing is the relief I felt...Basically as soon as some spare time is available from his dedicated Rally work..he will get his mechanic man on the case and get her running...said the B230A is a solid reliable lump..your quite right Ian..Andy doesn't see any problems getting her fired up.

Fingers crossed all goes well...finally, I can start to de stress..

I will keep you posted...Thanks again

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Hello Folks
The Van has been moved and now in a new home. A good friend from work has offered to help me get it back on the road as well as let me have a little slot in his Nissan hut. Ian is a bit of a Guru with Buses and likes a challenge. A big thanks goes out to him. :ok
First thing he did was check the electrics...one thing he found was the ignition control module was not producing/giving 12v to the distributor. The internal switch is probably u/s(a consequence being no spark would be produced for the engine to start up). So I have to source a different one.
One thing I will say the van is looking a little more neglected...panels and welding are needed. I plan to take the high top off and replace it with a Viking type space saver pop top. Other plans include just doing it up as a day van....ideal for me and my family.

I'm off to see Steve at Performance Cars in Wellington, specialise in Volvo's and he's a top man to deal with.
I shall keep you posted
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DentedDevon wrote:On the clutch problem, I wonder if due to the thickness of the adaptor plate the slave cylinder has run out of travel ? Easily checked by measuring the overall lenth of the slave and push rod before and after fitting.
I know someone spoke of welding 2 thrust bearings together on a DIY conversion to get round this !
It could be possible to get round it by extending the push rod, but not if the release shaft has already turned too far to work effectivly ?

Hello everyone I am back
Thanks Richard for your help...
Your right it is due to the thickness of the adaptor plate. I have a spare push rod and plan to put a m8 thread on both and use a threaded link piece to attach them both. This will give me adjustment. Ian lay on his back and pushed the lever arm up and I gave the clutch pedal a squeeze and bingo ......a clutch that wanted to work.
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Is it not done yet? :grin: If you need another spare motor I know where there's a motronic b230 with only 70k on it.
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syncroandy wrote:Is it not done yet? :grin: If you need another spare motor I know where there's a motronic b230 with only 70k on it.
Sounds interesting! How many £pretty greens£ are you looking for? I take it being Motronic (ECU) it's fuel injected? has it got a turbo and all the wiring. I will give you a shout once I'm up and running and funds are available. (Fingers crossed) always good to have a spare..

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Steve from performance cars has come through..:D
Here it is..The module with the heat sink is the replacement
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Lets see if I can get the distributer to spark!!

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Motors sat in a vgc 940, in a scrappers in S.Lakes so not exactly convenient. Depending how keen you are it could probably be taken out and strapped to a pallet, but there may be ones nearer you.
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good work keep the updates coming :ok

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Thanks Neil..it's been a while :roll:
Going to have a play with the module on Monday, hopefully the engine will start.
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Good news to report...There is life in the engine 8)
Had it running for a couple of minutes and it sounds really nice...To say I'm chuffed and buzzing my nips off is an understatement.
Thanks goes out to Ian for his methodical approach, It wasn't all plane sailing.
We began with checking out the replacement ignition module, if you recall 12v was not getting to the dizzy..12v was still not getting to the dizzy. We were about to shoot off to research the module itself and its suitability etc. as I was looking for a pen to write down info I came across a 7pinned Module I bought off EBay (two years ago :roll: )and said to Ian check this out (Intermotor 15000) plugged it in and bingo, 12v to the dizzy. Both buzzing at this point checked the timing and position of the dizzy hot wired her up and turned the engine over and over...no luck.
Ian suggested old fuel as it does loose its potency after a long while...so he quickly disconnected the feed to the carb and knocked a temp fix to a petrol can...still no luck. Now we have fuel getting to the engine problem...got to be carb.
Sure enough off with the carb, unscrewed the bottom plate to check out what was going on, only to discover it was dry as a bone.
The previous owners must have messed with it. The internals had been put back in wrong cutting of the air to the petrol feed pipe.
Momentum picked right up, bolted the carb back on and cranked the engine. :mrgreen: yes boy :mrgreen:
Sounds sweet as a nut...Ian says I've got a good sounding engine..no smoke and with the Suzuki can on sounds lush.
All the wiring I did is fine. Ian will do double checks for me and get the temp gauge & sensor for water temp sorted. Oil light came on and went off as expected. Alternator is charging the battery. so things are looking good so far.
Next week (Thursday) is our only slot for tinkering. Plan of action will be clutch and gear linkage, then just maybe a sneaky test drive!!
Tom

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