Cosworth 2.9litre in my Crewwy

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Thats it, decided to sell crewwy.

The thing is awesome, I am going to miss it, just brought it home from my lock up and just loved every min of drive.

Decided to sell it and purchase a LHD Syncro or LHD crewcab so I can get it registered in France with ease.

Adverised now so if anybody wants it, it is up for grabs.

Was thinking of going to Vanfest and selling it there, but tickets too rude.

See how it does on this and other forums.

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Even though I am selling it, I am still working on it.

Dropped the cage off today to be shot blasted so I can finish it off properly. Once this is done the final bolting down of chequer plate load bed and tie down shakles to vehicle load bed.

Need some door seals next to allow full seal of doors and no draft or noise as I can not find mine, cheeses me off when I strip something then can not find parts to bolt it back together so I have to buy them. Grrrrrrrr.

Anyhow, near enough complete now, few more minor jobs and it is 100% complete.

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Well the crewcab was out and about last night and she showed what she could do to AT and TMT.

Got to admit, when you press the loud pedal, she does get a bit giddy. LOL.

Just got to sort this stall problem out.

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[toomanytoys]

Deffo confirm... "giddy" isnt the word.. each gear it just pushes on again and again.. "relentless"...

If you want a surprisingly quick truck that is very useable if you can keep away from loud pedal...

Thanks for the cracking trundle.. woke up this morning and had a giggle to myself about it...

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Got to admit, did give it a bit of the loud pedal on the way home after dropping you off and it most certainly would possibly do over 105mph on the motorway with lots left on the loud pedal, I would say at possibly probably maybe about volume 6 and could maybe go all the way upto volume 11. LOL.

Fell in love with it again and its no longer for sale. LOL. Wait till next big bill comes in and see if my mind changes again.

Great to me you both and put faces to the voices of wisdom on the cordless telephone wireless devices. LOL.

Aiden, when my numbers come up you will have an order for a gearbox that can put the power to the black stuff and we will talk about this warentee issue with me in the drivers seat. LOL.

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Just a quicky:

It is amazing how much you take for granted in your vehicle.

Finally I have managed to get all my clocks and dials wired so they light up, and blimey what a difference it makes when you can see how fast you are going in the dark.

Next jobs on cards, reverse sensors, HEGO management, towbar electrics and stereo. Once all the electrics are finished I can concentrate on installing all the sound proofing and carpets and make the thing nice to drive.

Still grin when loud pedal is pushed, all the way to volume 11.

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Well the Crewwy is having its first official outing and is attending the Northwest Meet on the 11th, should be good to meet people who have ploughed through this thread and know the crewcab and the challenges that have been overcome to get this thing on the road. It may even drag the old desert storm out as well as JamesT25 said he may attend in my old crewcab, which by the way I am really looking forward to seeing as the guy has done it justice and finished it off after spending big jingle and putting lots of time into it.

Just got some niggly jobs to complete now to try and finish a few things off.

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Well i finally took it over to see the old crewcab that James bought off me. What a fantastic job James has done to the old girl.

Top credit to him.



made me laugh though how we are both using crewcabs which are incomplete. Not happy about the trip costing me £20 in fuel though. Phah.

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Hi, this is my first post on a subject that I may be able to help with but not sure if its already been coverd, with regaurd to the stalling problem with the 24v engine can be caused by a lack of or faulty vss input which also causes stalling/ gear change problems on the Granada. I also believe that this is an issue withsome of the Subaru conversions, hope this may help. I am reading through this thread with interest as I have a Cosworth sitting on my drive with a good lump in it .

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CC, hopefully this thread will either encourage you to undertake the conversion or put you off the idea totally.

It has been a slog but now I have been through it all, I think I could do the same conversion again in less than a week. The hardest thing to deal with is the wiring harness modifications.

I post on the granada cosworth forum as well and a lot of very knowledgeable peeps have helped me out and a few peeps on here have been god sends as this is the first time in the VW scene. If you do decide to do it I will hopefully be able to help you out with all I have learned doing the conversion if you have any questions.

The thing is electrifying when you hit the load pedal and when the 2nd throttle body opens at 4500rpm it just takes off again like it has a turbo fitted.

My first piece of advice if you were thinking of the conversion is use a BOB engine and harness rather than a BOA as you can get real time feed back from the motor rather that beep coding and as you remove loads of stuff it is like some one with parkinsons is sending you a morse code message on the thing and no rolling road will touch it either.

In relation to the VSS I have explored this avenue as you can get a VSS which connects in line with the speedo mech, the main problem is not when you dip the clutch, the rev generally drop to 9 - 950 or so, it is after giving it a bit of volume and you come to lights the tick over sits nice then drops to 600-700 for a short while then it stops, and hence the VSS would not be sending a signal at standing position. There is a way of fooling the brain in the fact that you connect the VSS to the tacho and hence it recieves a signal. I did this and the revs sat around the 1500 mark and fuel consumption went to circa 5mpg which makes you weep.


Good luck with the decision and I am at the end of a PM if you go down this route. All I can say is the power is awesome, but you will need Mr Talbot to build you a gearbox to take it, upgrade CVs etc but the noise. Urg I need to nip to the toilet. I am going to do a bit of footage of it as my mate want to see and here it running, when complete I will post a link to it.

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Umph! my two are the BOA engines one running on LPG ( my daily driver). I guess the tacho output is always there giving a constant vehicle moving signal and picking the revs up ready for the auto box. How about a VSS from an early Golf / Scirocco with a fuel computer, the VSS is mounted behind the speedo sensing the rotation of the air drive for the MPH needle. The moulding is present in all the speedos that ive seen and can be cut out easily to insert the sensor.
VSS on the Granada gives about 3 pulses per rev if I remember correctly information I had from CossieCapri on the Granada forums. How high would the plenum chamber sit above the standard deck lid/ would me and her have a bad back in the morning in my Westy.

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CC,

I will check that for you as with my crewcab I have the second deck. When I think about it it depends how you mount the engine, at present mine is mounted quite high, but I am sure it is not the much above the normal deck. You can mount the engine lower wthout a problem, I decided tht I did not want my engine on display from behind the truck to make it look as stock as possible. I fabrcated the mounting bracket myself using the cosworth engine mounts, if you changed the config I am sure you could get it as low if not lower than the original deck with the BOA having a flat plenium chamber on the top.

I am interested in your LPG conversion though, what parts is it running as I bought a LPG kit off a BOB engine which I intend to install once I have the engine running perfect and the correct MPG.

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The Granny runs an OMVL tandem vaporiser, Leonardo lambda loop (closed loop) LPG ECU, Pitagora 6cyl emulator single point sysrem with a 60 ltr Stacko dohnut tank in the spare wheel well. This system drags the LPG in with the air using a mixer ring and was the best way of converting just as the multipoint injection systems were coming out (they were about £1200 just for the bits then) it uses feedback from the TPS, Lambda sensor (just one) and off the coil pack for RPM to control the gas modulating valve.
You could probably pick up all the parts you need for about £400 now, I paid double that when I fitted mine and was an easy weekend fit, It was then taken to a local garage that had the software to set it up and that was it , ive done over 60k on LPG with only having to replace the main control solenoid (£15) and a plug lead ( they do like a good spark) . So the important bit is that it does with this system about 17 to the gal on LPG around town and about 21/23 on a run which is a bit less than petrol but works out to over 40 to the gal pound for pound on a run as I pay 46 ppl by me. The other good thing is that the oil keeps clean all the time so I run Halfords 0w50 and change it at about 8k.
Yes there is a slight but noticable loss of power with this type of system as opposed to the multipoint but with 195 bhp to play with you dont notice it and if you want to mess about at the lights just switch it over to petrol for a while but not too long as you find after a while of running on LPG you like the feeling of money in your wallet. Oh, by the way I use about 2 gal of fuel for about every 1000 miles on LPG as it starts and warms up for a while on pelrol (mainly to keep the injectors working) and when you run out of gas occasionaly.

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CC

PMed you re LPG stuff.

I am going to take some piccies of my conversion in relation to a few general piccies then take some measurements of the laod bed etc.

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OK,

The next part of the conversion relates to the interior. (I know this is modified engine etc but wanted to keep all work done on crewcab on one thread for completion)

At present I have a pair of cosworth seats in the front, a carpet set and a caravelle three seater modified to fit in the back.

I am going to fit some foam underlay (closed cell type) under all the carpets to deaden sound from there.

But I want to reduce the cab noise somewhat and I have two trains of thought:-

1. I was thinking of spray glueing some carpet underlay on the inside face of the panels with the door cards off (obviously) I was going to leave a gap at the bottom of the panel of an inch or so, but it was more to deaden the sound etc. I was also thinking of doing the same on my rear panel behind the seat and line the boxes out under the rear seat and front seats.

2. I was looking on some in car entertainment sites and they have all special deadening products, it was only untill I looked on some US sites that I realised that all you need is a form of bitumen pad on the door and that is all the products that are offered to the UK is like dynamat and the likes, so I was thinking would something like ruberoid coldseal do the same job as these expensive car products?

3. I was out driving in the rain the other night and the noise coming from the rain hitting the roof was very loud, so again I was thinking of attaching some form of sound deadening to the underside of the roof with the lining removed and then refitting the lining.

Again this may stupid, some of my ideas are, and I know there are kits out there but when you look at the size of panels which need to be deadened it works out very expensive.



Any ideas welcomed.

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