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Re: Let the arguments commence......

Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 14:17
by silverbullet
I would like to see inside one "in the flesh" to see what process was used to produce the rotor and stator elements, then we can see about getting a source of replacements with suitable heat/surface treatment.
I could probably justify purchasing some precision scales with a suitable tare once the parts and fluids have been sourced and costed.

Re: Let the arguments commence......

Posted: 27 Nov 2011, 19:16
by syncropaddy
Aidan wrote: but I haven't got the time to get involved with them at the moment

Still cleaning up after Paul's visit? :D :D :D

Re: Let the arguments commence......

Posted: 27 Nov 2011, 19:39
by syncrosimon
silverbullet wrote:I would like to see inside one "in the flesh" to see what process was used to produce the rotor and stator elements, then we can see about getting a source of replacements with suitable heat/surface treatment.
I could probably justify purchasing some precision scales with a suitable tare once the parts and fluids have been sourced and costed.


I have been informed that no plate warpage has been seen by many rebuilders, only mild scoring of the plates. (i guess that the scoring will come from a hard VC going into hump sooner) a failed open VC should have good plates.

Re: Let the arguments commence......

Posted: 27 Nov 2011, 19:41
by syncrosimon
It sounds like to me that the extra expense some manufacturers add on for warped plates might be bogus, how are you going to find out if it is true or not, but the seller makes another £200 of easy profit. Is it just my suspicious mind working over-time?

Re: Let the arguments commence......

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 09:27
by KarlT
Yes it is, but coppers are meant to be!! :lol:
Guess you could ask to see old plates, but as you say, impossible to check really.

Re: Let the arguments commence......

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 14:03
by silverbullet
There aren't many places that return all "dead" parts after a rebuild. Aidan must be one of the few...having said that more than a few of our customers aren't that interested, as they don't know what they are looking at!

It confirms my suspicions that there's a lot of old flannel talked on this subject (refer to various comments in the 120 Euro thread) that suits the interests of the few who are in the VC rebuild business. Good luck to them hanging on to their monopoly, but I for one am enjoying the challenge of digging up the crucial data.

I'm up for having a go now we've got some numbers.