tdi donor vehicle question

[Peninsulakid]

He's the gent that put the AFN in my camper van last month. Did a top job, goes like a train.

[smokeyjon]

SEAT cordoba TDIs have got AHUs in them. Being SEATs, and over 10 years old most of the bodywork helpfully falls progressively away revealing the engine for you! They're lots cheaper than VWs too. I presume the (Mk2?) Ibiza TDi is also the same. I recently bought a 60K (miles) cordoba estate as a 'sensible family car' with a view to getting a couple of years out of it before chopping it up. In that time I hope to figure out the conversion (mTDI?) and save up enough money for the gearbox!!

[Aidan]

Dan apologies for the delay you have 5.43 final drive 6PA gearbox in the Camper, normally go 1.09 third and 0.70 4th with that with something like 235/70/16 with AFN engine, AHU/1Z may struggle with that on fully loaded camper but depends on set up I don't do diesel so not the person to advise on the nitty gritty of them

[syncropaddy]

I have just read that the 1Z and AHU are pretty well the same thing and a 1Z/AHU crank fitted to a 1Y with a turbo from a Jx with big injectors, intercooled and the 'Rover pin' is the way to go ......

Seems logical if you want to stay away from electrickery yet keep the reliability of the 1Y or is it b0ll0x

[hotpod]

Its a minefield!

i have never had a "normal" car except a talbot horizon when i was 17 for about 3 months before i got my first beetle, then it was beetles and campers and my first syncros about 7 or 8 years ago. no looking back since then.
but as a consequence, i said no the the seat alhambra. fugly thing with a nasty blue interior and smelt of wet dog and ginger biscuits. oh, and the engine continuously puffed white smoke. i have no idea what that means but it didnt fill me with great confidence for the engine.

i have been looking at audi 80s on ebay and gumtree etc cos i fancy driving one of those for a bit and they appear to have the right engines.
i dont mind doing some of the electrickery for some more power and economy. i have a mate who is a helicopter engineer at rnas culdrose who seems to think it isnt that difficult and has offered to give me a hand.

and thanks for the gearbox info aidan.

so...if i am looking for a 90 or 110 horsepower tdi for the truck, what gears do i need for third and fourth please guys?

[hotpod]

syncropaddy, i dont fancy finding a new crank and putting it in the 1y, but does that mean you can turbo a 1y?
does anyone know the definitive answer to that?

it seems to have something to do with oil squirters at the bottom of the pistons or something and others have mentioned compression.

i dont have much understanding of anything other than old aircooleds so i am a bit out of my depth with anything other than putting engines in and out. ( and even that is a stretch with all the water and stuff)

[hotpod]

is this any good do you think?
http://www.combellack.co.uk/salvage-veh ... manual/814

from the chart below i work out that it should have an AVG code motor. would it fit?



DIN-rated motive power & torque outputs, ID codes
29 kilowatts (39 PS; 39 bhp) — CDX Volkswagen Marine (10/07->)
55 kilowatts (75 PS; 74 bhp) @ 3,600 rpm; 155 newton metres (114 ft•lbf) @ 2,000 rpm — CDX Volkswagen Marine (10/07->)
66 kilowatts (90 PS; 89 bhp) @ 4,000 rpm; 202 newton metres (149 ft•lbf) @ 1,900 rpm — 1Z, AHU
66 kilowatts (90 PS; 89 bhp) @ 3,750 rpm; 210 newton metres (155 ft•lbf) @ 1,900 rpm — AGR, AHH, ALE, ALH
81 kilowatts (110 PS; 109 bhp) @ 4,150 rpm; 235 newton metres (173 ft•lbf) @ 1,900 rpm — AFN, AHF, ASV, AVG
applications
Audi 8L A3 (Mk1) (AHU: 09/96-08/00, AHF: 01/97-04/02, ALH: 08/97-06/01, ASV: 09/99-06/01), Audi B4 80 (1Z: 09/91-07/95), Audi Cabriolet (1Z: 07/95-07/96, AHU: 07/96-08/00), Audi B5 A4 (1Z: 01/95-07/96, AFN: 02/96-07/99, AHU: 08/96-06/00, AHH: 04/97-09/01, AVG: 08/99-06/00), Audi C4 A6 (1Z: 07/94-06/96, AHU: 07/96-10/97), Audi C5 A6 (AFN: 04/97-04/01, AVG: 08/99-10/00)
Ford Galaxy Mk1
SEAT Ibiza Mk2 (1Z: 07/96-12/96, AHU: 12/96-06/99, AFN: 03/97-06/99, ASV: 03/99-05/02, AGR: 04/99-05/02, ALH: 10/99-05/02), SEAT Córdoba Mk1 (1Z: 07/96-12/96, AHU: 12/96-06/99, AFN: 03/97-06/99, ASV: 03/99-08/02, AGR: 04/99-08/02, ALH: 10/99-05/01), SEAT León 1M (Mk1) (ASV: 10/99-10/05, AGR/AHF: 11/99-09/02, ALH: 05/00-10/05), SEAT Toledo Мк1-Mk2 (1Z: 04/95-12/96, AHU: 06/96-03/99, AFN: 12/96-03/99, ALH: 03/99-07/04, AGR: 04/99-09/02, AHF: 10/98-09/02, ASV: 10/99-07/04), SEAT Alhambra (1Z: 03/96-07/96, AHU: 07/96-02/00, AFN/AVG: 09/97-02/00)
Škoda Octavia 1U (Mk1) (AGR: 10/96->, AHF: 08/97->, ALH/ASV: 08/00->)
Volkswagen Polo Mk3 Classic / Variant (AHU: 01/97-08/99, ALE: 11/97-08/99, AFN: 06/98-08/99, AGR/ALH/ASV: 10/99-09/01), Volkswagen Golf Mk3 (1Z: 07/93-07/96, AFN: 02/96-08/99, AHU: 07/96-06/00), VW Vento/Jetta Mk3 (1Z: 07/93-07/96, AFN: 02/96-12/97, ALE: 01/97-12/97, AHU: 08/96->), Volkswagen Golf Mk4 (ALE: 05/96-12/01, AHF: 10/97-05/06, AGR/ALH: 10/97->, ASV: 05/00-05/06), VW Bora/Jetta Mk4 (AHF/ALH: 09/98-05/05, AGR: 10/98-05/05, ALH: 11/98->, ASV: 05/00-05/05), Volkswagen New Beetle (ALH: 01/98-06/04), VW Passat B4 (1Z: 10/93-12/96), VW Passat B5 (AFN: 03/96-08/99, AHU: 08/96-08/00, AHH: 05/98-08/00), Volkswagen Sharan (1Z: 09/95-07/96, AHU: 08/96-10/00, AFN: 12/96-07/99), Volkswagen Caddy (1Z: 10/96-03/97, AHU: 10/96-09/00, ALE: 09/97-09/00, ALH: 09/00-06/03)

[jebiga41]

syncropaddy, i dont fancy finding a new crank and putting it in the 1y, but does that mean you can turbo a 1y?
does anyone know the definitive answer to that?

it seems to have something to do with oil squirters at the bottom of the pistons or something and others have mentioned compression.

i dont have much understanding of anything other than old aircooleds so i am a bit out of my depth with anything other than putting engines in and out. ( and even that is a stretch with all the water and stuff)

You don't need the crank and yes you can turbo a 1y with jx injectors lines and pump or aaz injectors lines and pump. Once the block has D/TD on it, it has the same block as an AAZ oil squirters and all there are only some small differences between the 1y and AAZ engines and as long as you don't go over tuning a turboed 1Y they are a good solid engine. In fact have heard of some 1y's have been tuned up to 250bhp

There's a lot of info on idi's here http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?board=13.0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and also ringo and mr hutch have turboed 1y's on the brickyard in fact the feedback from blown 1y's seems to be very positive. If your stuck for jx pumps and injectors I have a few sets lying around and should be in the Uk in mid nov let me know

[hotpod]

o.k. now we are talking. that could save me a whole lot of grief.
whats the best turbo to use then? i have an idea that the jx turbo is smaller than the aaz one.
and will i need an intercooler if i want to get 90+ horsepower?

and i just have to check that my memory is correct and that it does say D/TD on the block.
thanks for the link too.

[hotpod]

see im confused now!

do i just want more power or the economy to go with it.
my head is spinning.
i need a car to tide me over, so i am trying to kill two birds with one stone and get something with the right tdi.
if that wasnt a requirement then finding a cheap runaround would be a whole lot easier.

urgh!
this would be a lot easier if money wasnt an issue at the moment.
and with that in mind, i can see how people give up and sell the syncro.
and keping two of them is pure lunacy.
till it snows, or you need to take the chainsaw down the woods
or camp where no one else can
etc.

i fell like i am missing some limbs with both of them off the road.

[hotpod]

update:
i have just bought a golf estate of a mate with an ahu tdi in it. it has done 160k miles but has been well maintained and regularly serviced and runs sweet so i couldn't say no.
i am now seriously considering putting it in the camper ( 2.1dj ) petenali has just expressed an interest in the dj should i go ahead and since everything is out of the van at the mo it seems like a good time to do it if i am going to.

i have been reading up on it all over the forum and i am 75% sure its a good idea.
anyone got any opinions either way?
aidan, hows my gearbox currently for an ahu?

if i get to 90%sure then i will go ahead. otherwise i will just upgrade the doka.

[jes*b]

Go for it! With Lots of questions / pictures etc so I can follow you.

[syncropaddy]

Go for it. I have an AHU sitting in the shed looking for a home. I have all the stuff except the throttle potentiometer. I intend to get Andy to do my loom for me.

[xriss]

i have a couple of M pumps here surplus to requirements one westy ventures 4BT modded pump and one 2.8 LT pump both ideal for a rock solid tdi transplant with no wires:)...my 1z transplants now in its 9th year with out any issues whats so ever

[hotpod]

i intend to go the "E" route for the economy.
i shall be in the market for a diesel tank, bellhousing, armour and support brackets.
i have the sump and the alloy engine bars ( the ones which bolt to the block).

i am still a bit stumped with intercoolers. Bernd jager seems to put air cooled ones behind the left hand rear light sealed in to make the most of the vans ears, with a fan for backup. the 2wd people put them above the gearbox with an air scoop. i like bernds approach for neatness and simplicity, yet when i read the intercooler specific threads, people are doing all sorts of expensive other things. the vans "ears" were designed originally to provide cooling air for the entire engines, surely on ear can provide enough cooling for the intercooler?

one more thing, i said i need a diesel tank, but i do recall hearing or reading somewhere that it is possible to keep the petrol tank and reshape it for the diesel starter with a hot air gun. has this been done successfully by anyone on here? anyone got anything to say on that please?