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poshbuggers wrote:
I'm sorry but as a climber I have seen morons try to walk/climb mountains on foot with little or no skills/knowledge/protection and they have got stuck, had to be rescued at enormous cost and/or died as a result. having worked in mountain rescue it's these people that cheese me off the most.
Hehehehehehe..... thats me that is a couple of weeks ago I climbed a small mountain (well a scramble really but with big rocks and a few small ledges) in my flip flops and board shorts. All the people holding those pole things hated me you could tell, I was dieing to ask one of them for a drink though as I was well thirsty
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Haha, me too. Spent 4 weeks hiking in the Himalaya.
Already had a rain-mac, Bought some £10 chinese boots & a £12 backpack, two 50p water bottles from Kathmandu and we were off.
Had a truly great time mixing it with people who had their brand-new Northface this, oakley that, gps the other, guides & porters! They had spent more on their socks than my entire expedition budget!!
about 3 years ago when i was, well , 3 yrs younger and a few thousand fags fitter a few of us parked up at Rhyd ddu and ran up the Watkins and back done on the Rhyd Ddu paths. Got to summit and came around the back of the visitors centre. On the way up we saw no one, coming round the corner of building it was absolutely rammed with tourists who had walked up pig/miners in sandals/primark cagouls etc and this was very early spring when the weather can change in minutes. Unchuffing beleivable, talk about being prepared (and yes we were carrying/wearing gucci kit )
Sorry, but I don't think it's funny to go out without being properly prepared at all. Potentially people are going to put their lives at risk to save people just because they can't be bothered to take a few easy precautions like decent kit, waterproofs, emergency food, map, compass etc. It's not rocket science and can save a lot of grief.
decent kit, waterproofs, emergency food, map, compass etc.
Having the equipment is only part of it. There are a lot of "all the gear, no idea" weekend Bear Grylls wannabees getting into just as much trouble because they don't know the first thing about coping when things go wrong.
Will climb down off my soap box now
Only if you're wearing your harness.
2ltr Aircooled CU with twin Solex's & originally a 009 dizzie, but now back to standard.
Not a lot in Norfolk which is why we want to move 'up North'. But I do a lot of walking hols and train and take kids on Duke of Edinburgh expeditions so I do speak with some knowledge of what is required - both in equipment and experience.
Had a funny moment last week in the Lakes - some bloke and his son had stopped at the junction of 2 paths at about 600m. They said, 'excuse me, do you know the way to Angle Tarn from here?' LOL They had the guide book and were doing the Coast to Coast - but no map or compass or any idea how to use them if they did have them! I took a quick bearing and reference to the map - and we were on our way with them following. They were also carrying their tent and sleeping bags loosely 'cos they hadn't worked out how to strap them to their backpacks LOL I'm just glad the weather held for them.
Much to my eldest sons disgust i make him navigate by map when we go abroad to 'learn him' the basics.
With invention of internet/computer games etc scouts/guides appear to be less popular than they once were, also the latest generation of youth orientated groups etc dont have much/any 'lets go outdoors and make fires/get dirty' type activities and also lottery/council funding into more sports typr groups - that sort of stuff - so these sort of skills appear to be not as abundant as they once were. Out of all the kids i know , 1 goes to scouts, 25 years ago just about every one of my mates went.
Was chatting to a mate who is on the PS at CTC and he was saying all the recruits coming thr are fat lazy knackers with no idea for the above reasons. Too much time sat on hoop watching youtube
I learnt the basics in the RAF. On exercise in Snowdonia in the middle of winter I had to take a turn leading a group on a two mile leg to a tarn. About half way the weather closed in and visibility went down to less than 50 metres. Being young & cocky I decided to press on and pace the distance to reach the waypoint. By the time we reached the point we should have been able to see the edge of the lake the snow was a few inches deep and and all I could see was more snow. I called a halt and told the instructor who had been observing us, that I thought we were at the waypoint. He checked my bearing and pacing and told everyone to scrape the snow in front of them. Ice! I'd marched everyone onto a frozen lake! We ended up having to spread out and dig in the snow every ten feet until one of the party reached solid ground and we could all escape.
I was definately in the "all the gear, no idea" category for the rest of the exercise.
2ltr Aircooled CU with twin Solex's & originally a 009 dizzie, but now back to standard.
The daft pillock has gone and done it again, parked it up right at the top this time! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15108712" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I really hope they chop it up and send him the bill
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a couple of weeks ago I climbed a small mountain (well a scramble really but with big rocks and a few small ledges) in my flip flops and board shorts. All the people holding those pole things hated me you could tell, I was dieing to ask one of them for a drink though as I was well thirsty
(and yes we were carrying/wearing gucci kit 
)
Sorry, but I don't think it's funny to go out without being properly prepared at all. Potentially people are going to put their lives at risk to save people just because they can't be bothered to take a few easy precautions like decent kit, waterproofs, emergency food, map, compass etc. It's not rocket science and can save a lot of grief. 
