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Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 23:24
by HarryMann
lots of references to drivehsafts without stating front or rear.. so always presuming rear

but why only 3rd & 4th on acceleration.

Nothing too strange about that, as its more likely a road speed thing (d/s and prop rpm) rather than engine revs

A CVJ that seems Ok but isn't as neil says ios highly likely, I'd not think it was that gearbox fix (yet)

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I've done what SB is suggesting before... Whaaat an eye opener! Esp. where prop clanking and bell-mode ringing is concerned, nearly deafened me standing underneath

NB. IIRC, these are non standard engine installations, not the 50 degree JX layout.

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 30 Sep 2010, 02:56
by jebiga41
I've had vibrations off both my Syncro gearboxes, without the prop on ( rear-view mirror vibrating )both occurring around 55 mph a blip of the throttle and goes again, one that's been refurbed and the other original where as with the prop on nothing. Aidan said a certain speeds/rpms one can get a resonance which is no harm could it be that?

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 30 Sep 2010, 07:08
by PC52
The plot thickens.
When the oil was removed the box was run up so the oil was hot.
Now after it has been stood for a week, we've strained through fine coffee filter and this is what is left.

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I though we would see more aluminium or something. The 3/4 brown bits are seed pods from the many trees we have.

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 30 Sep 2010, 07:19
by Aidan
that's all clean so must be clutch vibes

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 30 Sep 2010, 08:40
by ajsimmo
Mudlark wrote:Gearbox touching bash plate ?

Check this out, coz I had the exact same thing - horrible vibration at 1900 revs in 3rd and 4th (nowhere near as bad in 1st/2nd), particularly when accelerating through that band. Went away above 2000rpm, but still there a bit (if that makes sense).
Bash plate looked very slightly bowed upwards (only a tiny bit) so I took off bash plate and straightened out so was sure nothing was touching. When I refitted it went on easier, vibration completely gone, and running slightly cooler too (which I put down to better airflow between sump and bash plate).

Happy days

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 30 Sep 2010, 11:53
by silverbullet
More suggestions. I know that my 2.6 has a real floor-drumming throb of a vibration that comes on at around 55 but disappears at 65 (just), before getting worse again.
It's either the n/s rear bearings or the o/s driveshaft and CV's (that I haven't renewed yet).
But...a couple of the alloys could be in better condition - one dent/flat to inner rim to each rear - and it's very sensitive to road surface conditions. Worse on a smooth road.
As for the gearbox, is it possible that 3/4 synchro hub is in the process of failing and so causing misalignment in the 'box? But you'd have more swarf, I'd have thought.

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 30 Sep 2010, 21:25
by PC52
Update:
bashplate isn't touching - it is now eliminated (as its on the floor now)
cvj's are good, drivelines replaced
Play was found in the gearstick mechanism on the gearbox - don't think that could cause issues though.
So today box out and another box in.
Bit of a dash in the morning to finish off and then we'll see.

Suggestions taken on board and appreciated.

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 30 Sep 2010, 22:38
by syncropaddy
Did you have a look at the clutch while you were in there? Do you have a dual mass flywheel?

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 30 Sep 2010, 23:34
by v-lux
I have a low hum in 4th most noticeably.

Interestingly, I too have a slack output shaft from the front diff...

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 01 Oct 2010, 07:15
by PC52
syncropaddy wrote:Did you have a look at the clutch while you were in there? Do you have a dual mass flywheel?

Clutch is fine apart from the few miles Sharon shaved off of it in Germany. Not dual mass - we put the biggy clutch in when we did the conversion.

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 01 Oct 2010, 11:12
by syncropaddy
PC52 wrote: Clutch is fine apart from the few miles Sharon shaved off of it in Germany.

There you go .... thats the problem!

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 01 Oct 2010, 18:59
by JustSharon
syncropaddy wrote:
PC52 wrote: Clutch is fine apart from the few miles Sharon shaved off of it in Germany.

There you go .... thats the problem!

Etiam , tamen ego eram secundus

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 01 Oct 2010, 19:22
by syncropaddy
Revera es

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 02 Oct 2010, 21:25
by JustSharon
syncropaddy wrote:Revera es

gratias ago vos

Re: Vibration, for serious discussion only

Posted: 02 Oct 2010, 21:30
by JustSharon
ajsimmo wrote:
Mudlark wrote:Gearbox touching bash plate ?

Check this out, coz I had the exact same thing - horrible vibration at 1900 revs in 3rd and 4th (nowhere near as bad in 1st/2nd), particularly when accelerating through that band. Went away above 2000rpm, but still there a bit (if that makes sense).
Bash plate looked very slightly bowed upwards (only a tiny bit) so I took off bash plate and straightened out so was sure nothing was touching. When I refitted it went on easier, vibration completely gone, and running slightly cooler too (which I put down to better airflow between sump and bash plate).

Happy days

Bash plate is sorted. Still understand where you could get the vibes from.