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Posted: 26 May 2006, 09:33
by HarryMann
Well, I must have read several hundred and scanned several hundred more posts covering Subaru installations in the US, and don't think I've clocked an identifiable history of bottom-end problems with them...
Head-gaskets and overheating on one particular model (EJ25), occasionally low oil pressure, other niggles of course.
Maybe Mr Big is referring to turbo Subarus, when only a minute percentage of VW conversions have ever been turbo engines.
I certainly wouldn't have thought the EJ22 has a weak bottom end, nor the EJ25, which together makes up the large majority of conversions.
Posted: 26 May 2006, 20:23
by andysimpson
HarryMann wrote:Well, I must have read several hundred and scanned several hundred more posts covering Subaru installations in the US, and don't think I've clocked an identifiable history of bottom-end problems with them...
Head-gaskets and overheating on one particular model (EJ25), occasionally low oil pressure, other niggles of course.
Maybe Mr Big is referring to turbo Subarus, when only a minute percentage of VW conversions have ever been turbo engines.
I certainly wouldn't have thought the EJ22 has a weak bottom end, nor the EJ25, which make up the large majority of conversions.
The overheating/head gasket trouble seems to affect the entire range but this is not a huge issue. The bottom end letting go on the turbos is now getting them a really bad reputation, it does not help with the sort of people the cars attract who thrash them to death.
Posted: 26 May 2006, 20:58
by missusjen
andysimpson wrote:The overheating/head gasket trouble seems to affect the entire range but this is not a huge issue. The bottom end letting go on the turbos is now getting them a really bad reputation, it does not help with the sort of people the cars attract who thrash them to death.
I now have a bizarre image of Subaru attemting to corner the saga market in a vain attempt to preserve their reputation for longevity.......

Posted: 26 May 2006, 21:01
by HarryMann
My understanding - as expressed in the Modified Engines Conversions forum topics - is that whilst most Subaru flat 4's are particularly sensitive to small air pockets in the cooling system, lodging in the cylinder heads and causing local overheating, and requiring careful and complete filling and bleeding - it is only the DOHC and early SOHC 2.5 engines that have had an acknowledged head gasket problem per se.
Posted: 26 May 2006, 21:05
by andysimpson
HarryMann wrote:My understanding - as expressed in the Modified Engines Conversions forum topics - is that whilst most Subaru flat 4's are particularly sensitive to small air pockets in the cooling system, lodging in the cylinder heads and causing local overheating, and requiring careful and complete filling and bleeding - it is only the DOHC and early SOHC 2.5 engines that have had an acknowledged head gasket problem per se.
I think its a case of one bad engine gets the rest a bad name, i have never seen a 2 litre N/A with a blown headgasket but the turbo ones go.
Posted: 26 May 2006, 21:18
by andysimpson
missusjen wrote:andysimpson wrote:The overheating/head gasket trouble seems to affect the entire range but this is not a huge issue. The bottom end letting go on the turbos is now getting them a really bad reputation, it does not help with the sort of people the cars attract who thrash them to death.
I now have a bizarre image of Subaru attemting to corner the saga market in a vain attempt to preserve their reputation for longevity.......

The the chavs can wreck some other car makers reputation
Posted: 26 May 2006, 21:47
by missusjen
andysimpson wrote:The the chavs can wreck some other car makers reputation
Scarily, as you wrote that, I'm listening to The The.....
They've wrecked plenty already.....it's just that your average chav can't afford an Impreza....

Posted: 26 May 2006, 22:09
by andysimpson
missusjen wrote:andysimpson wrote:The the chavs can wreck some other car makers reputation
Scarily, as you wrote that, I'm listening to The The.....
They've wrecked plenty already.....it's just that your average chav can't afford an Impreza....

They can around here, they buy/steal either 3 series cu*t mobiles or imprezas
Posted: 27 May 2006, 07:46
by Diamond Hell
Heh. Chavsa are the reason I went for the 2.2 NA rather than the 2.0 Turbo. Nippers are so busy blowing up the Trubo motors that there's a strong demand for them.
Older Legacys on the other hand are big, fat old cars that farmers and the like buy and keep until they die. Most farmers don't thrash their cars (they're too tight).
I'll be giving my EJ hell now it's in - we'll soon see if it's a robust engine or not*.
*I was one of the key reasons for one of the big recalls on the new Mini 
Posted: 27 May 2006, 11:04
by Cate
* well you kept breaking it!

Posted: 27 May 2006, 13:58
by HarryMann
Don't think any of the EJ22 series were rated at 140 BHP Thomas, even the late ones were quoted at 135 BHP? The early ones about 125~130.