+ where do peeps get their panels sheet metal weld from?
useful addition to the wiki - approaches for panel welding .
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Re: useful addition to the wiki - approaches for panel welding .
i v interested too -
+ where do peeps get their panels sheet metal weld from?
+ where do peeps get their panels sheet metal weld from?
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Re: useful addition to the wiki - approaches for panel welding .
jamesc76 wrote:
I've been doing loads some pics might help you? https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=63543
Thanks for this as well, I also hadn't seen it previously. And goodness, you've done a lot of work there!
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Re: useful addition to the wiki - approaches for panel welding .
Still a bit to do too! 
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Re: useful addition to the wiki - approaches for panel welding .
Isnt that posted in the syncro vaults somewhere?
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Re: useful addition to the wiki - approaches for panel welding .
Not so good scan of body repair info: http://www.mediafire.com/?ofuozabnznm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: useful addition to the wiki - approaches for panel welding .
Not so good scan as you say, but a great manual. It looks to be a breakaway part of the workshop manual (some of it is in there). Anyone who does panel repair will find that very useful. Seems to cover front to back - very good. 
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Re: useful addition to the wiki - approaches for panel welding .
thanks for sharing
really useful
really useful
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Re: useful addition to the wiki - approaches for panel welding .
ok here's where i was going, a sort of a compilation, best bits of posts.
and that workshop manual is very cool.
take the rear arch skins on the t25 for example. very primitive splodges of welding from the inside, but interesting to keep repairs to the same flavour as the original! i have learned a lot from the posts on here, and can't believe how much seam sealer is used on these beasts! almost used like underseal!
and that workshop manual is very cool.
take the rear arch skins on the t25 for example. very primitive splodges of welding from the inside, but interesting to keep repairs to the same flavour as the original! i have learned a lot from the posts on here, and can't believe how much seam sealer is used on these beasts! almost used like underseal!
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Re: useful addition to the wiki - approaches for panel welding .
I think you'll find theres a wealth of information both within the forum and in the WIKI. To be fair, the mods do a very difficult job in deciding what warrants inclusion in the WIKI and in reality they'd have to be on it full time just to keep up. Its not the easiest format in which to create an easy-to-browse help section but the WIKI is certainly growing all the time - keep an eye on it.
The only sure way to absorb the full ramifications of tackling bodywork is to actually get stuck in yourself. You only have to look at the varying state of decay with some T25s (and many I would not have bothered tackling to be honest) to appreciate how difficult it is to provide a one-size-fits-all guide. I actually left out part of a floor in one job as I felt it offered minimum structural integrity and created a water trap. Others have modified parts of the structure to avoid repeat episodes of rot. Sometimes these jobs become a personal decision and no matter how well written up, others will take a different view. Its also a skilful business and over the years I've encountered some very talented individuals, including Malcolm Rookes (Wivenhoe) who I swear could sew the Titanic together.
There are ofcourse many good books around that concentrate exclusively on restoration including one that covers renovation of the VW beetle which is not out of place here. The fastest way to learn would be to buy a Type 2, leave it on the drive and just wait. Before you know it you'll be welding out6riggers and goodness knows what else.
Your approach is spot on Xpress, but I think you'll struggle to develop something with so many variables and indeed skill levels, as others will no doubt verify. As someone once said when I was overhauling their brakes "How much will it cost?" - "How long is a piece of string" I said. Welding is welding but those with limited skills won't approach the job in the same way as an experienced welder. In the end it comes down to recognised methods used widely throughout the industry which are already covered by so many other sites out there.
In other words, the approach isn't T25 or even VW specific. What 80/90 does very well is show the construction and availiability of panels - thats all a welder needs to get on with the job. Technique really needs a video (80/90 bandwidth couldn't run to that) and there are plenty of those on You Tube. Put that way, I'd say its beyond the scope of this site.
The only sure way to absorb the full ramifications of tackling bodywork is to actually get stuck in yourself. You only have to look at the varying state of decay with some T25s (and many I would not have bothered tackling to be honest) to appreciate how difficult it is to provide a one-size-fits-all guide. I actually left out part of a floor in one job as I felt it offered minimum structural integrity and created a water trap. Others have modified parts of the structure to avoid repeat episodes of rot. Sometimes these jobs become a personal decision and no matter how well written up, others will take a different view. Its also a skilful business and over the years I've encountered some very talented individuals, including Malcolm Rookes (Wivenhoe) who I swear could sew the Titanic together.
There are ofcourse many good books around that concentrate exclusively on restoration including one that covers renovation of the VW beetle which is not out of place here. The fastest way to learn would be to buy a Type 2, leave it on the drive and just wait. Before you know it you'll be welding out6riggers and goodness knows what else.
Your approach is spot on Xpress, but I think you'll struggle to develop something with so many variables and indeed skill levels, as others will no doubt verify. As someone once said when I was overhauling their brakes "How much will it cost?" - "How long is a piece of string" I said. Welding is welding but those with limited skills won't approach the job in the same way as an experienced welder. In the end it comes down to recognised methods used widely throughout the industry which are already covered by so many other sites out there.
In other words, the approach isn't T25 or even VW specific. What 80/90 does very well is show the construction and availiability of panels - thats all a welder needs to get on with the job. Technique really needs a video (80/90 bandwidth couldn't run to that) and there are plenty of those on You Tube. Put that way, I'd say its beyond the scope of this site.
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Re: useful addition to the wiki - approaches for panel welding .
Yep its a bit crap,its one I picked up off the net somewhere.Some of the pages were unreadable and I skipped them when I put the pdf together.Leeroy`s not the only one collecting VW literature but I need to get myself a scanner and a spare day or threeCovKid wrote:Not so good scan as you say, but a great manual. It looks to be a breakaway part of the workshop manual (some of it is in there). Anyone who does panel repair will find that very useful. Seems to cover front to back - very good.
I could probably fill the wiki with it including gems like the holy grail of a comprehensive set of current flow diags and obscure stuff like the book covering California and Joker equipment. 
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Covkids right the best way is to get stuck in,but for those who aspire to doing there own welding repairs but don`t know where to start,tryCovKid wrote:The only sure way to absorb the full ramifications of tackling bodywork is to actually get stuck in yourself.
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Lots of sound advice and the forum is excellent.Try also reading resto threads on other sites to get a feel for what goes on http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is good including the thread on making panels http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.c ... read=70135" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;