Heating issues tend to be when you're sat in the van prior to kipping time and when it's Pee o'clock in the morning
We have left the Eber on overnight on the lowest setting (thermostat controlled) and it still dries the air in the van out significantly ... mouth like Ghandi's flip-flop scenario ... but it definately beats being frozen at -8c when your ber beloved drunkenly switches the heating off and leaves the slider open
Ebers and Propex can be left on all night perfectly safely so long as the intake/outlets are kept clear of obstructions, when both will go to 'overheat' safety mode and shut down anyway.
Ian
The Hulley's Bus 1989 2.1DJ Trampspotter LPG courtesy of Steve @ Gasure
Ian Hulley wrote:Heating issues tend to be when you're sat in the van prior to kipping time and when it's Pee o'clock in the morning
We have left the Eber on overnight on the lowest setting (thermostat controlled) and it still dries the air in the van out significantly ... mouth like Ghandi's flip-flop scenario ... but it definately beats being frozen at -8c when your ber beloved drunkenly switches the heating off and leaves the slider open
Ian
Yeah I'm thinking lowest setting through the night with a front window down half an inch for a bit of the breathable stuff. It's looking like a propex kit is the way to go considering I'm having an LPG conversion so I can run a line off the lpg tank. Although I won't rule out an Ebrerwhatsit if I can pick one up at the right price.
Best be budgeting £300ish for owt decent this end of the year ... every year more and more campers realise that camping don't stop cos the wheel polishers have garaged their ornaments and leave it till now to start looking for winter heat
The best camping can be in the winter
Ian.
The Hulley's Bus 1989 2.1DJ Trampspotter LPG courtesy of Steve @ Gasure
just be aware that unless you have a dual outlet tank fitted (leisure and road fuel) this cannot be done, as roadfuel is taken out of the tank as liquid, not gas.
check out the price difference and availability with your installer first.
Ian Hulley wrote:Best be budgeting £300ish for owt decent this end of the year ... every year more and more campers realise that camping don't stop cos the wheel polishers have garaged their ornaments and leave it till now to start looking for winter heat
The best camping can be in the winter
Ian.
I would've looked earlier except I've only had my Bus 5 days
Mocki wrote:just be aware that unless you have a dual outlet tank fitted (leisure and road fuel) this cannot be done, as roadfuel is taken out of the tank as liquid, not gas.
check out the price difference and availability with your installer first.
Ah! In that case can I just T off my Calor bottle that's just used for cooking?
Mocki wrote:just be aware that unless you have a dual outlet tank fitted (leisure and road fuel) this cannot be done, as roadfuel is taken out of the tank as liquid, not gas.
check out the price difference and availability with your installer first.
Ah! In that case can I just T off my Calor bottle that's just used for cooking?
VERY expensive option there friend in the long term.
Ian.
The Hulley's Bus 1989 2.1DJ Trampspotter LPG courtesy of Steve @ Gasure
Mocki wrote:just be aware that unless you have a dual outlet tank fitted (leisure and road fuel) this cannot be done, as roadfuel is taken out of the tank as liquid, not gas.
check out the price difference and availability with your installer first.
Ah! In that case can I just T off my Calor bottle that's just used for cooking?
VERY expensive option there friend in the long term.
Ian.
Wouldn't this be cheaper as calor is less expensive than LPG as there's no road duty on it. I can get 47kg calor (just under 100 litres) for £32
wherethe hell you going to store a 47kg bottle of gas?
100l of road fuel would indeed be more, £45 ish, but if you use a 4.5kg bottle of gas they are about £14 for 3l .
just remember that you need propane not butane, or you will still be cold.
Mocki wrote:wherethe hell you going to store a 47kg bottle of gas?
100l of road fuel would indeed be more, £45 ish, but if you use a 4.5kg bottle of gas they are about £14 for 3l .
just remember that you need propane not butane, or you will still be cold.
I wish I could get 100 litres of road fuel for £45! It's 55p a litre minimum round our way and my local's 58p.
The propex heaters I've been looking at say propane or butane. What's the difference? are normal domestic bottles Propane or Butane?
It's easy to confuse a stupid person ya know. This is all getting too much!
OK, Butane freezes before you're tootsies get remotley chilly and is therefore kin useless for serious winter activities (other than those which generate their own heat ... but let's leave matrimonial unpleasantries out of this ).
Propane (lpg) is your friend .... however unless you buy a Gaslow styleee refillable cylinder you have to pay over the odds for the smaller trade-in cylinders OR invest in the underfloor leisure tanks which quite a few of us have fitted (i.e. pre-loved Westy gas tanks) or have a larger dual-outlet tank when you have your engine system installed. This opens a can of worms re bed and storage versus cheap fuel and capacity.
IF you can find a gas retailer (i.e. NOT a petrol station ... try down the maritime route ?) you should be able to fill your leisure tank without paying the road duty which you have to pay on lpg for use as an engine fuel.
Ian
The Hulley's Bus 1989 2.1DJ Trampspotter LPG courtesy of Steve @ Gasure
Ian Hulley wrote:OK, Butane freezes before you're tootsies get remotley chilly and is therefore kin useless for serious winter activities (other than those which generate their own heat ... but let's leave matrimonial unpleasantries out of this ).
Propane (lpg) is your friend .... however unless you buy a Gaslow styleee refillable cylinder you have to pay over the odds for the smaller trade-in cylinders OR invest in the underfloor leisure tanks which quite a few of us have fitted (i.e. pre-loved Westy gas tanks) or have a larger dual-outlet tank when you have your engine system installed. This opens a can of worms re bed and storage versus cheap fuel and capacity.
IF you can find a gas retailer (i.e. NOT a petrol station ... try down the maritime route ?) you should be able to fill your leisure tank without paying the road duty which you have to pay on lpg for use as an engine fuel.
Ian
OK mystery solved.
Luckily I have a gas pump so I can buy 47kg bottles leave them on my drive and pump gas into the smaller bottles as and when needed at a much lower cost. Simples!
Ok had another idea. What about catalytic gas heaters? They're supposed to be clean burning and safe for indoor use. As long as you have a window cracked for airflow and condensation I would think these could be a good cheap aternative heater for the "odd" winter nights camping.
They're used a lot in boats and are advertised as safe for use in caravans, campers and tents and can be bought new for a lot less than Erberwhatsitcalleds. Maybe not such a good idea if you've got kids or dogs in the van but if it's just me and the missus and we just want to take the chill off. What do you think?
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