Diesel Gearbox Protection

[HarryMann]

Straight and bent can mean a multitude of things, what do you mean... who bent?

If you mean the deformations to give UJs clearance then of course they should be like that...

[jed the spread]

And don't you dare be so f'ing patronizing.

No need to be like that....

I actually went out of my way to take those pictures for you last night in the dark to explain what you where looking at because you asked for them. I also am (was) a potential future customer who was trying to help you come up with a product that might work as I think I need it.

OH!!! and your welcome

jed

[jed the spread]

Jed, Wow, that must have been an almighty thwack to do that..

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Putting a very simple 1/4" dural plate on mine Jed, front part only just to cover the 'G' /'R' housing protrusion. If you want one I'll make a 2nd for you, just requires tapping into the box under-run frame 6 x M6 threaded holes. Photo if you want?

It must have been hey!!! I tried first of all with a scissor jack against the floor and try and push the mount downward but no chance If you could make a plate for me to Clive that would be fantastic, obviously let me know of any financial outlay or time you need recouping for. Very kind of you I would love to see a photo and I like the way it can be taken off to drive home if everything gets abit whacked.

Look forward to seeing it,

jed

[silverbullet]

Sorry Jed but I'm tired of your little games, trying to play people off each other in what seems to be a quest for influence and favour. I object to the insinuation that I have somehow ripped off one of your "sponsors" and that I should go and develop my own products instead of copying other peoples work.

When I said "got any pics of the carnage" I hardly expected you to go out and lay under your van right there and then, but thanks all the same. It's given me an idea for another product that will be original.

Luv you

[jed the spread]

Oh dear!!!! it's all back to this again https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=81885" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Best let it go now, otherwise it could drag on...

Jed

[silverbullet]

It's all been far too emotional and now I have one of my headaches again. I think we need to spend some time apart, for the sake of the children

[silverbullet]

Replace fixing bolts after every big hitting session as they will be "S" shaped.

Maybe, but never (in ?? years SN eventing!) bent one yet

I defer to your considerable experience, Clive. I think that should have been "could become" rather than "will be"
Maybe very low-grade bolts, say 5.6 instead of 8.8, that could deform on impact would be a "fuse" point and save bigger damage? But only if everything else has been beefed up first.

Aluminium bolts maybe? They aren't cheap but so would be the repairs that we are all trying to avoid. Carry spares in toolkit!

What do the Suzuki offroad fraternity do for sump protection these days? Since they have IFS they are the nearest thing for comparison to a syncro that I can think of right now.

Not that I'm suggesting any kind of plagiarism, just borrowing some concepts

[syncroand101]

I think you should all learn to drive properly and position your vans better to avoid hitting the rocks in the first place

[Mudlark]

I'd go with driver restraint and reverse gear as possibly the best protection money could buy

[HarryMann]

Ian, I use a very good quality stainless bolts for the M19 headed ones at the rear and 8.8s or better elsewhere

Maybe the fact don't have a crossbar piece under the prop-bar/tray join (never came with truck) has helped but I've chnaged bolts for a few reasons, so far cannot remember them bending (should really all be working in single shear at least)

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Jed, will be in touch then, presuming you have same type of diesel rear tray, early type.

[Russel]

First attack on bash guard protection is fit a TDI.Then you can crawl over everything slowly. Second part is driver experience and attack angle.
I have messed around with all sorts of extra supports but ultimately you move the weak point somewhere else or you need to redesign the hole protection setup with
a lot! of extra weight added.
I am now and have been for a wile just using the standard setup with no broken bits.
By all means add a bit of extra protection but it is very easy to go to far. Front diff casing is strong, no need for extra there. Gearbox can do with extra plate
but no need for a full length plate.
Russel

[syncroandy]

Jake, Mark and Russel said it !

[syncropaddy]

As an aside, brand new Diesel sump guards are available from VW Classic Parts. I also have an untouched / un-offroaded set of diesel van 'undergarments' if anyone is interested in copying them.

[HarryMann]

Jed, simple bashplate

[HarryMann]

First attack on bash guard protection is fit a TDI.Then you can crawl over everything slowly.

Agree, about nice slow crawl Russel

Just don't see how very highly geared Tdis can achieve it, if idle rpm same as a TD

Thinks Must be forgetting something important