Dashboard PCB Replacement (CJH Design)

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Thanks TT, that looks impressive, but could be a map to the nearest loo in work for all I know :rofl

What would a diode on the voltage regulator relay do exactly? Would it just light up to show that it's getting power?
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It's not a LED Diode but a regular no light emitting one ( although it would work )

D1 in the diagram is there to protect the voltage regulator internal circuitry. if you imagine capacitor C2 is storing 5V all the time the circuit is on, then when the input is turnd off there is a chance the currenct will flow back into the 7805 to ground and damage the chip ( unlikely but hey what's best practice for ) insteed it would flow through D1 and ground via C1.

Never killed one without a diode but for a few pennies of components save having a failure.


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D1 provides regulator input short circuit protection. It is only required if a high-value capacitor (hundreds of uF) is connected to the output in parallel with C2. In case of a regulator input short circuit, the high-value capacitor is discharged via D1 instead of through the regulator with the current reversed, which may damage it. Under normal operation the load on the regulator discharges the capacitor when input power is removed.

Capacitors in combination with the regulator will have no effect on the bimetal gauges; there is nothing wrong with the design as is without capacitors and diode.

 

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ImageI took this screenshot back in 2021 as this member appears to have been able to get some of C j h ‘s designs made ( he used his user  name printed on the board) 
 Is this member still active on the club and maybe he might be able to help.Image

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Excellent find, Cecil. Thank you for sharing.
I will try and message him.

It looks as though it's not too difficult to replicate these boards if you know what you're doing. I believe Twin Turbo may have cracked it (and improved it) with his schematics too.

The actual dimensions are the next thing I believe I need to sort out.
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If he has the eagle files then that makes it a shed ton easier. 

Dimensions wise , the main thing is the spacing of the 4 mounting holes  and 6 LED's nothing else maters on the main board. I

If anyone has a edge conector plug going spare that would help for doing the adapter board.

I am not sure why the original design does not have fixed configuration on the adapter baord and selecteable configurations with jumpers on the PCB.
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Ianders profile says he hasen't been on club8090 for over a year now. I've sent a message this morning, but he also could have left the forum now.

I believe there are only 2 mounting holes on CJH's board. If we can line those up (with one of CJH's pictures), I assume everything else should line up?

I took some pictures/measurements of my dash the other day. Anyone on here good enough to photoshop things so we can get an idea of the dimensions?

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These are the best pictures of CJH's board that I can find.

Can anybody use them?

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There you go, 10 pixels = 1/10".

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icosahedron wrote: Yesterday, 13:27 There you go, 10 pixels = 1/10".

Can you give me that in millimetres for both PCB's?
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I did a rubbing of the moutning holes on a peice of paper and them measured the distances from the edge to each mounting hole, did the maths and foudn the distance they are appart. 
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Then nocked up a very quick board outline in KiCard , put on two mounding holes 3.2mm ( may have to change that but easy job )

Printed it on paper and checked the alignment which looked fairly good.


This is the board layout view.

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This is the 3D render.

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If my main D printer is working ( I can't remember if I fixed it after it last broke ) I may nock up a Model in onshape and print it to check fit. my other 3D printer has been in bits for months.






 
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Been busy today though ...

Fitted a wheel cylinder to my Robin Hood Kit car, Changed the Cam belt and water pump and attempted to fit the pipes on my juicy new fat core alloy rad...

Then fixed one project for my son. there had been some software issus and I came across a bug as the number of steps on the stepper motor exceeded the value that could be stored by the type of variable being used. Easily fixed once I had realised my error.

DMX controlled stepper motor board and  he built the pully reduction rig.




And then fixed another project for my son that I have been working on for 4 years. Kind of kept falling by the wayside.. He just needs to put it in a nice encloseure with hardware. 


And DMX controled  mains relay switching board.
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Thanks for keeping this updated, TT. I started watching a video on how to use Kicad earlier today, but I'd be lucky if I figured out how these things work by Christmas.

If I can help in any other way, please let me know. I don't mind taking my dash apart again if you need any more measurements 👍

When CJH made his paper mock up, I believe his measurements were 72.9mm x 126.4mm for the main PCB. Maybe this could help?
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The Hairy Camper wrote: Yesterday, 13:41
icosahedron wrote: Yesterday, 13:27 There you go, 10 pixels = 1/10".

Can you give me that in millimetres for both PCB's?

I made a mistake there; 25 pixels = 1/10" or 2.54 mm. That gives board sizes of 65 x 123 mm and 65 x 24 mm. I'll recheck it tonight to make sure I didn't mess up again.

Update:
My measurement of the distance between the two holes from the board image comes to 70 mm compared to TwinTurbo's 68.9 mm. Hole diameter = 3.5 mm.

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icosahedron wrote: Yesterday, 17:30
The Hairy Camper wrote: Yesterday, 13:41
icosahedron wrote: Yesterday, 13:27 There you go, 10 pixels = 1/10".

Can you give me that in millimetres for both PCB's?

I made a mistake there; 25 pixels = 1/10" or 2.54 mm. That gives board sizes of 65 x 123 mm and 65 x 24 mm. I'll recheck it tonight to make sure I didn't mess up again.

Update:
My measurement of the distance between the two holes from the board image comes to 70 mm compared to TwinTurbo's 68.9 mm 

1mm difference sounds acceptable. What measurements do you get for length and width?
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